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Greetings,

I don't agree with any of these....think I'll set a fourth.....

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Posted : October 12, 2019 8:46 am
nate-the-surveyor
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That's a nice picture. Could you get it professionaly printed, and framed, and sell them, to raise $ for rplstoday?

I think they could/should be signed prints. And used as fund-raising device.

Where is Brad Ott? 😐 ?ÿ

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Posted : October 12, 2019 9:57 am
paden-cash
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They all fit well within my "Three Pound Coffee Can Rule".?ÿ?ÿ

 
Posted : October 12, 2019 10:42 am
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Presumably the one that is lowest was there first. Not that that really means anything.?ÿ

 
Posted : October 12, 2019 10:50 am
holy-cow
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Unless guy number two drove it down and left his higher.?ÿ Then guy number three drove down Mr. Guy #2 bar so his would be the highest.

 
Posted : October 12, 2019 11:02 am

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Contractors and fence guys are the culprit in many cases.?ÿ Surveyor digs up the corner then someone wants a point above ground to stretch a string to, so they drive another rebar beside the original. Lather, rinse, and repeat.?ÿ

 
Posted : October 12, 2019 12:50 pm
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Bind them together and fill the hole with redimix.

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Posted : October 12, 2019 1:11 pm
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@a-harris

In Texas don't you run a least squares adjustment on them to decide which is correct? If none pass the least squares analysis you should set a new corner of course.

 
Posted : October 12, 2019 1:30 pm
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Which ever one is most plumb gets my vote.

 
Posted : October 12, 2019 2:46 pm
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@holy-cow

In which case the lowest is still the first set. 

Nobody admits to pin cushioning like this. IMO, this mostly happens when the office precalcs corners based on deed description or plat dimensions, the field crew finds a couple of monuments to jump on for a basis and sets the rest without further searching . Anything not sticking out like the balls on a dog is simply not found. Doing it like that is the only hope one has of doing a boundary survey for $500.

 

 
Posted : October 12, 2019 3:25 pm

FL/GA PLS
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Kent McMillan would have it figured out in no time. (to the 0.0000) ?????ÿ

 
Posted : October 12, 2019 4:48 pm
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A good reason for well connected metal caps with plenty of info.... or better yet, something more substantial than rebar.?ÿ

For only $2.50 per corner you too can perpetuate the identity of the corner, your identity, and the year you set it. Hopefully leading who ever finds it to a recorded survey that explains why you set the corner where you did.?ÿ

(I realize in a small minority of locations the soil is corrosive to aluminum and you would have to shell out more money for brass.)

 
Posted : October 12, 2019 4:55 pm
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@skeeter1996

Had they computed a DMD adjustment for closure of their traverse, there would not have been a problem.

 
Posted : October 12, 2019 5:00 pm
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Posted by: @skeeter1996

@a-harris

In Texas don't you run a least squares adjustment on them to decide which is correct? If none pass the least squares analysis you should set a new corner of course.

Don't forget that the least squares analysis shouldn't be based in recovered monuments, but on the engineers mathematical idea of the location of the boundary line.?ÿ?ÿ

 
Posted : October 13, 2019 11:06 am
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Posted by: @skeeter1996

@a-harris

In Texas don't you run a least squares adjustment on them to decide which is correct? If none pass the least squares analysis you should set a new corner of course.

Don't forget that the least squares analysis shouldn't be based on recovered monuments, but on the engineers mathematical idea of the location of the boundary line.?ÿ?ÿ

 
Posted : October 13, 2019 11:07 am

a-harris
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@aliquot

An engineer would simply eyeball the location............lol

 
Posted : October 13, 2019 3:34 pm
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Are those boundary corners, or the top of a foundation column??ÿ

 
Posted : October 13, 2019 3:45 pm
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A couple of people having some fun at Kent's expense. In his defense I say that he would:

  1. Find pincushioning just as abhorrent as the rest of us do;
  2. Interview the neighborhood in an effort to find out who might have done what, when, and why;
  3. Contact any surveyor who he might thereby identify;
  4. Figure out which of the found monuments to hold, or a have a sound reason for setting his own;
  5. Have the cajones to pull out the monuments he did not use, thus leaving the landowners with a single position they can rely on;
  6. Put one of his giant aluminum caps on the remaining monument, making it - and the responsible party - easy to identify for generations to come;
  7. Thoroughly document everything he found and set in one his extended descriptions, and record it.

?ÿ

If you think you can live up to those standards go ahead and make your snarky remarks.

 
Posted : October 13, 2019 3:48 pm
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It is malpractice to leave all those in place. Talk to the neighbors and explain it and pull all of them up and set a proper monument.?ÿ I realize a lot of you guys have been trained and conditioned to be one of those Joe Friday surveyors and report the facts and rarely make a decision but those kinds of things are a contributing reason for unnecessary property disputes, neighborhood discord, and litigation.

I know there will be a lot of wailing and gnashing of teeth over the very idea of pulling them up but I don't see any caps or identifying marks so they could be a hunk of metal.?ÿ

So, talk to the adjoiners remove the offending trash and set a proper monument.?ÿ

We are supposed to be the experts so if not us who? Why would we yield to a lawyer?

 
Posted : October 14, 2019 3:57 am
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Blasphemy.?ÿ Capping or otherwise identifying has not always been the standard practice/required practice.?ÿ One of those could be the one I set correctly several decades ago, if it were near here.?ÿ Leave my bars alone, dammit.

 
Posted : October 14, 2019 5:37 am

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