Seriously, though, Andy
"If it's not the rods, how come some people can't do it?"
That's exactly the point, Andy!
It's pretty late in Florida, isn't it?
Just funnin'.
I'm not even a real believer myself, but I can,t dismiss it entirely.
I have a tendency to believe most things that seem extraordinary.
Don
Seriously, though, Andy
Yeah, too much sun today. AC kicked on at the office!
http://www.csicop.org/si/show/testing_dowsing_the_failure_of_the_munich_experiments/
Dang!
And I just sent an email to Mike congratulating him on getting the last word.
Sadly, like many experiences in my life, that was premature:-(
Don
Seriously, though, Andy
> If it's not the rods, how come some people can't do it?
>
> Clearly it's all complete BS. Until it's scientifically proven, that is my take on the whole deal.
Dr. Willie Walker of Iowa would tend to back you up on that.
http://www.uiowa.edu/~osa/burials/Dowsing.pdf
The best excerpt:
>While I possess neither coffin nor corpse, we do own a nice old wooden chest with metal hardware, and I have a perfectly-alive wife. While I could not get my wife to get in the box to test my theory because of concerns that it would damage the chest, she was willing to lie on the floor while I dowsed over and around her and the box.
Dang!
> Sadly, like many experiences in my life, that was premature:-(
TMI, Don. :>
Thought about trying to make an intelligent comment on the topic. Then I read more of the thread. Decided it is far enough off topic that I don't want to attempt anything near the original topic.
> Thought about trying to make an intelligent comment on the topic. Then I read more of the thread. Decided it is far enough off topic that I don't want to attempt anything near the original topic.
Thanks for trying Dallas. This was bound to go downhill pretty quick. Oh well.
The cemetery I live by has a surveyor who hailed from Delaware Ohio. Robert Beam Gould,1883-1940. He's a survey legend around here. His career spanned from 1910 to 1940 in Central Ore. and his work was phenomenal. Since both his kids died early (both at the same age as him, 57, and from the same malady, heart disease) and the family dispersed, not a lot is know about him. I contacted his grand daughter in Maryland some years ago and she sort of fleshed out the family history and graciously lent the family photo albums to our historical society for us to scan. We have beau coup photos of sites and houses that must be around Delaware Ohio in the late 19th century.
Seriously, though, Andy
IF there is anything to it, I think it would be based on disturbance in the natural continuity in the earth. Perhaps magnetic but too weak to detect with common instruments.
It seems that it would have to be something detected in the body/brain and reflected in the rods. The variety of rods or sticks people use shows that there isn't anything special about them.
My brother-in-law and MIL demonstrated it to us. My wife tried and got some kind of vague response. I tried and NOTHING. So maybe you gotta believe for it to work?
This begs the question...
> It's just like the thermos. The thermos can keep hot things hot or cold things cold, but...how does it know?
"There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio,
Than are dreamt of in your philosophy."
Hamlet, Scene V
I don't see where this thread has gone "off topic" at all.
I'd love to hear your thoughts on dowsing for dead people. .
Andy
Seriously, though, Andy
>
> Now, if you are dowsing for a grave, what is your central nervous system reacting to?
>
> Hmmmm
[sarcasm]The remaining water in the body?[/sarcasm] 😉
A pox on you non-believers
It does work. I've done it myself. And, the rods will swing in one direction for males and the other for females. Very high percentage of accuracy.
I know it is easy to not believe such things are possible, yet they are.
Oh, ye of little faith.
A pox on you non-believers
Now see this is where I diverge from believing.
I know dowsing works, because I have done it and my father is very good at it.
The idea that someone could find buried objects or bodies of water with rods and sticks is hard enough to swallow for a scientific type person. When you start getting into specifics like how deep, male-female, how many gallons per minute, remote dowsing, ect. that where I start shaking my head.
I'm not so bull headed that I wouldn't be open to a new idea, but I believe this is why so many people are skeptical.
Dowsing graves>Once upon a time
An elderly lady was approached by a real estate agent, asking her if she wanted to sell her vacant lot in a subdivision, she replied, "Yes I would, but I can't sell it," was her answer.
"And why not?" the broker asked.
"Well, my son was killed in 1978 in a plane crash in Cape Cod Bay, and the following year my husband died. I had them both cremated and then I buried the remains on the vacant lot, AND I CAN'T REMEMBER WHERE!"
So the broker called me. As it turned out she had chosen to bury them in a piece of luggage, so with great hope I went to the lot with my handy Metal D. After about 20 minutes of aimless wandering I stopped to think. Ok here it is, 20 odd years after the fact. I stepped back looked at the lot and started listening in the prettiest portion of the lot, near a tree, facing southerly, and bingo I got a return.
I started digging and maybe 3' deep I found the suitcase, mostly rotted but still with the lock and hinges.
And two plastic bags full of dust and fragments.
Strangest job I've ever received $'s for.....
A pox on you non-believers
Now here is a weird story.
Awhile back, my brother, father and I were discussing where we were going to begin prospecting for gold, we had a map laid out on the table.
Someone said that we should just find the gold using remote dowsing.
My brother jokingly held a nugget over the map with his eyes closed, his head turned away and dropped the nugget on the map. My dad and I marked the spot and had a good laugh.
"That's where we need to dig!"...
Someone came up with the idea of trying again.
While he had his eyes shut and his head turned, my dad moved the map about 6", thinking we would trick him. We watched while he moved his hand around and were amazed when he dropped the nugget again in the same location!
Each time we moved the map and his hand slowly returned to the same location and the nugget dropped in the same location. He repeated the trick 6 times in a row. Kind of odd.
Did we find gold there? We have not looked yet. There is however.....a suspected grave site at that location. A pile of stones laid out facing an ancient volcano and the sunrise.
Dowsing graves>Once upon a time
What type of metal detector found that suitcase at 3' deep?
A pox on you non-believers
If I never hear another word about how dowsing "works" I'll be just fine with that.
Until someone takes that million dollars by easily proving it, put me in the NON BELIEVER category.
A pox on you non-believers
If it is ever proven to work, they'll start requiring a license and continuing education.
Thanks for the link Kent...
I found an infant brother who died at birth and is buried in Waco, McLennan County, TX.
I never knew him, I was 2 years old at the time my mother was pregnant.
My dad was in the Air Force and stationed in Waco.
I believe the links were added to my mom's side of the family by genealogists.
They have a desire to trace the records down. My mom did it for over 30 years.
That was the only thing that kept her active and sane till MS claimed her in May of 2012.
I must visit the site at least once.
A pox on you non-believers
> If it is ever proven to work, they'll start requiring a license and continuing education.
Until a degree is required, dowsers will always be looked upon as tradesmen whether they're licensed or not.
The Radionics & Dowsing Institute 2014 Catalogue
The British College of Dowsing