Nate The Surveyor, post: 403437, member: 291 wrote: It looks like 15 amps, needs 1800 watt generator.
I'm thinking 2000 watt generator, or 2000 watt inverter.
Essentially, a generator, is a gas motor, with an alternator, and an inverter.
So... Let me check using truck alternator, and 2k inverter...
These sorts of tools have much higher starting loads than the rated running load. So while the rated load may be 15 amps it may require more like 25 amps for a brief period to get started. That's why you sometimes see the lights dim or flicker when you start something up. In such a cases a 2000w generator, or inverter, may not get the job done for a 15 amp tool. Be sure you check the starting load of the tools you intend to run and get a generator to match that.
I still think the pinch point digging bar is the right tool for this job for most surveyors. As you say, it would be different if you needed to bust out pavement every day. If it was a daily thing then maybe an http://www.berntsen.com/Surveying/Hammers-Drills-Driving-Tools/Atlas-Copco-Cobra-Combi-Drill-Breaker/ctl/ViewProduct/mid/608/ItemID/771?mm_campaign=51D34A7F0278117419071F29DD992F9C&keyword=%7Bkeyword%7D&utm_source=Google&utm_medium=CPC&utm_campaign=%7Bcampaign%7D&gclid=COW5n7XQ7NACFZNffgodVicIZA&apos ;">Atlas Copco Cobra Drill would be da'bomb. That and a backhoe.
Jason Graves, post: 403499, member: 9531 wrote: Chrisnik use to have the Thunderbolt
http://www.stakemill.com/thunderbolt-power-bar-c-117_325/
Thanks Jason.
I really need one nxt wk.
Maybe I'll buy the log splitter variety, and try it, and have my welder modify it.
I do like the idea of the whole thing being high quality steel... Many things become possible that way. The slammer seems to have a wide head. (too wide).
Nate The Surveyor, post: 403513, member: 291 wrote: The slammer seems to have a wide head. (too wide).
Nate,
The slammer has interchangeable heads.
There is a spike - good for preping holes to set marks - this is the one we use most
There is a hammer head - we don't use that much
And there is a spade - shown being used to split wood in that video
We run a 15 amp sds max hammer drill off a 2000w generator without issue
I've contacted the slammer people. I was trying to get a single order together... Chisel bit, and rebar pounder. Their web site needs work. It's hard to figure out.
It looks like I'll be able to get it through a USA distributer.
Unless some better solution shows up, that's what I'm ordering.
If it's good enough steel, I'll probably be happy. I was thinking of trying the slammer as it is, but maybe cutting it down narrower, to be more like the thunderbolt. I'd likely order the thunderbolt, if i could find one.
Again, thanks everybody.
Nate
mvanhank222, post: 403518, member: 8673 wrote: We run a 15 amp sds max hammer drill off a 2000w generator without issue
I'm thinking that generators ALSO have a capacitor in their system, so that they can start motors. (handles the surge of startup). If i had a way to put a cap in with an inverter, on the truck, it'd probably help.
We have the Thunderbolts in our trucks, still in service from when Chrisnik sold them, and they are great. Much less effort than a rock bar, more control than a hammer, and the ability to change bits is great, Of course, I understand you done had to place your order. But figured I'd share in case someone else was looking.
Jimmy Cleveland, post: 403434, member: 91 wrote: If you wanted to go that route, I would go with a small 900 watt generator from Harbor freight, if you needed the occasional 110 to run a power tool. They are not much bigger than a large lunch cooler, and are not much louder than a weedeater. I have one that I bought to power Christmas lights on a float when my daughter was in high school. I have since used it for several different surveying projects, as well as some work around my Dad's farm.
When you say not much louder than a weedeater, which kind of weedeater do you mean? I been wanting a generator to carry on my horse trailer for power when I am in the middle of noplace, but it has to be one of the quieter ones. I was of the thoughts that the ones at harbor freight were a bit noisy to be sleeping by...
Thanks Monte,
If I could find the Thunderbolt I'd probably buy it I haven't ordered the slammer yet.
The thunderbolt looks better too, just because it's changable bits. Hayes has some bits left.
But, I cannot find a thunderbolt.
Monte, post: 403545, member: 11913 wrote: When you say not much louder than a weedeater, which kind of weedeater do you mean? I been wanting a generator to carry on my horse trailer for power when I am in the middle of noplace, but it has to be one of the quieter ones. I was of the thoughts that the ones at harbor freight were a bit noisy to be sleeping by...
I have a Homelite weedeater, and the generator I bought was about as loud as a weedeater running at medium rpm. It's kinda hard to explain, but it's not too loud.
I tried a tool like this years ago. Uses standard jackhammer bits.
Unfortunately there was a problem. The impact of the heavy steel rod was transmitted back through the rod to my hand. After 45 minutes or so my hand was so numb I couldn't write. It took a day or two before it was back to normal. We returned the tool for a refund. I think it would have worked better if it had a spring-loaded grip on the hammer rod to absorb the shock, rather than a wimpy rubber sleeve.
Search Words so far:
Airless Jackhammer
Brunner and Lay, pavment breaking tools
Yescom 52 cc
Lots of the "Stuff" we want, is geared to a construction site, with High Pressure Air, and MORE than 1800 watt electric pounders.
As I recall, some are using the light duty gas hammers, like the Yescom above.
Hey, good tools, are the forte of a good survey.
N
We can't work in up here in winter time without one of these. Granted, I do like taking 6 months off, but hurts the wallet somewhat.
http://www.creightonrock.com/products/construction-tools/atlas-copco-pionjar-drill-breaker/
My thinking is that i carry a boatload of stuff on the atv.
Rebar, 3 sizes.
Hammers
Flagging
Rebar caps
Chainsaw
Vise grips
Metal detector
Fiberglass handled mattock
Tire tool
(tire tool and sledgehammer together can open holes up)
Now, one more tool.
It should stay in the truck 90% of the time, but should be caryable on the atv.
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I hear ya. I'm thinking of a modified version of the two handled forewood splitter, I referenced above, (but that would mean more time, that I'm fast running out of!)
Flex or shock proofing on a thunderbolt design...
Btw, i think I found a Thunderbolt.
Thanks again everybody.
N
We use a pick ax. It never runs out of battery power.
Lamon, a pick ax works. Been carrying that for years.
Here's my situation.
Low travel roads.
Need 4 to 6 inch hole, in pavement, going down deep. One foot, plus.
Oops! Here comes a car!
Atv has flasher, and cones.
I want to be the fastest that i can.
The county gives me 5 gallon buckets of cool mix asphalt.
Get in, get out. Monument is updated, with one on the surface, and, documentation of whats below.
Speed = less "in the road" exposure.
You can put all the signs out that you want, but all it takes is one "loco capasa" to mess you up. I'm wanting less time in the road.
This equals fast tools.
N
MitchPTD, post: 403589, member: 10124 wrote: We can't work in up here in winter time without one of these. Granted, I do like taking 6 months off, but hurts the wallet somewhat.
http://www.creightonrock.com/products/construction-tools/atlas-copco-pionjar-drill-breaker/
This is what we use! Works great! Jp
I think that pionjar looks like a FINE tool!
I'm afraid I would not use it more than once a month, but I can see that IF I had one, I'd find ways to use it.
Thanks for sharing.
Nate
I had something similar to the thunderbolt. It had interchangeable tips and some sort of springs incorporated.
It was just a gimmick. Never found a use for it. A digging bar worked so much better.
If you really want to get some digging power, slip a heavy fence post drive over the end of the digging bar or piece of sharpened drill steel and be amazed at the amount of additional force that is to be had.
Speaking of abusing tools - on a hot summer day I have found an axe works very well in removing a nice square hole in the asphalt. Protective eye wear required.
Nate The Surveyor, post: 403650, member: 291 wrote: I think that pionjar looks like a FINE tool!
I'm afraid I would not use it more than once a month, but I can see that IF I had one, I'd find ways to use it.
Thanks for sharing.
Nate
We had several different bits for it. A large spade bit, for winter. Chisel it down (friction from the hammer drill helped melt the ground) and use its weight to pry out the earth. It also had the standard drill attachment for jack hammering, and we had a custom bit made to fit around the top of a pin. Why sledge hammer them down, when you have a jack hammer.
Granted they never looked that pretty afterwards. And, I had a separate jacket to wear while doing it. Two stroke motors do a fine job on clothing too.