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Jp7191
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Today’s topic title ‘Order of Importance of Conflicting Elements’ got me thinking about the following questions. One of the reasons for getting a detailed description of found monuments is to provide proof that we have found an original monument by the characteristics of the found monument. Or to establish the characteristics of a found monument so the next surveyor is sure that he has found the same monument. Since I have been using RTK for surveying I have found the ability to carry elevations+-.2’ but many times .02’ with RTK while surveying a very useful part of the tool. Especially when returning to a site and having to re-recover control points and found monuments. My question is: do any of you now use elevation as part of your characteristics of found monuments when applicable? If no, why not? Of course a detailed description of the bench mark/datum held would be on the face of the plat. What says you all? Jp


 
Posted : September 12, 2012 9:59 am
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Probably all do when it is applicable, I have never found it applicable.
jud


 
Posted : September 12, 2012 10:33 am
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A lot of property won't have enough vertical variation to make it useful, but I can see some value on big slopes.

Rather than the absolute elevation, probably more useful to say xxx.xx ft N xx xx' E and 47.3 ft higher to a monument set. That makes it a distance rather than a coordinate and thus better in the hierarchy, is probably repeatable to a better precision, and avoids all the issues of datum.


 
Posted : September 12, 2012 10:44 am
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I've seen surveys that describe the monuments relation to the ground.

Such as: Found CM flush with ground.

Fnd. IR/C .6' deep

Fnd. IP no ID sticking up 1.5'

that always helps


 
Posted : September 12, 2012 11:25 am
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> I've seen surveys that describe the monuments relation to the ground.
>
> Such as: Found CM flush with ground.
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> Fnd. IR/C .6' deep
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> Fnd. IP no ID sticking up 1.5'
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>
> that always helps

Same here, only height of monument above ground level. We rarely carry elevations on boundary surveys unless there is some engineering to follow.


 
Posted : September 13, 2012 4:13 am