angles guessed at by using a grade-schooler's plastic compass
protractor
Really, are we having this discussion??ÿ
OK, I stand corrected...
🙂
?ÿ
Nate
I, too, stand corrected.?ÿ A protractor is precisely what was intended.?ÿ Thanks, Bill.?ÿ Don't let me fall off the cliff.
The real question is, "Is the error all in one place, or pretty evenly distributed?"
And, when we "Re distribute it" do we do it via compass rule, or the "Rounding Rule" of adjustment? I am wanting a "Rounding Rule" Adjustment, cause that is what happened.
Words. Just words, I am using words. My words are just different than yours.
🙂
Nate
Rounded numbers? Probably not if they are old deeds. Older surveying used instruments with lower precision output compared to today?ÿ
I see a future where closing to the hundredth is considered too rough. Surveyors are measuring to the thousandth now. And hundredths of a second.?ÿ Does that seem absurd to you? Well, measurements to the hundredth and to the second seemed just as absurd to the surveyors of 50 years ago.?ÿ?ÿ
We??re looking at a long time before there will be positional tolerance standards for boundary surveys that will require that accuracy. ?ÿI can see the pin cushions and map notes now.
Nobody is going to apply that standard of care unless they are very well compensated.
R. Leonard is probably one of the few people willing to pay for it.
Nobody is going to apply that standard of care unless they are very well compensated.
That is what they said around here in 1851 about accuracy to better than a tenth of a chain, in 1900 about surveying to better than a foot, in 1950 about a tenth of a foot, and in 2000 about a hundredth.?ÿ Time marches on.
Words. Just words, I am using words. My words are just different than yours.
Word.
Take it to the molecular level if you want, but, if it's hitting the 6" x 14" x 30" limestone somewhere, it's good enough for me.
Take it to the molecular level if you want, but, if it's hitting the 6" x 14" x 30" limestone somewhere, it's good enough for me.
That is fine for Kansas rangeland, it won't fly in beautiful downtown Beaverton, OR.?ÿ
@dougie?ÿ
Quite a lot of money being spent redeveloping downtown Beaverton. When land values are quoted by the square foot Records of Survey are expected to close to the hundredth. Precisions that are close enough for rural range land don't cut it in this kind of environment.?ÿ
In a metes and bounds description, the monument is the critical item.?ÿ The distance provided just has to be good enough to find the monument.
Someday we may get to the permanent coordinate to the nearest electron level but I will have retired my license by that time.
Another firm in the area was threatened with a law suit by a client who had no concept of the world of land surveying.?ÿ What people generally referred to as a "40", meaning a fourth of a quarter section, showed up to be only 37+ acres, not the 40.0000000000 acres he thought he was selling for $8000 per acre.?ÿ He soon learned to tuck his tail and go home, mad, but smarter.?ÿ What he should have done is priced the property as a lump sum for $320,000, take it or leave it.
Area, no matter the units, is a poor way to sell real estate.
