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D-Day96, post: 381643, member: 6385 wrote: You ever find yourself just kicking something around inside your head for days and going back and forth between the "right" answer? Well, that's been me this past week.

I'll try to keep this as short and simple as possible.

When you're writing a metes & bounds description that requires a curve description, what do you consider a tangent vs. non-tangent curve? Seems like a stupid question at first glance but I've honestly run into so many conflicting descriptions lately that it's got me spinning.

Do you call it a "tangent" curve only if it's tangent at both the PC and PT?
Do you call it a "tangent" curve if it's only tangent at the PC?
Conversely, when is it "non-tangent"? At both the PC and the PT/end of curve?
What if it's non-tangent at the PC but tangent at the PT/end of curve? Do you then call it a non-tangent curve but then end your description with "and for the point of tangency"?

I'd sure appreciate your input and hope to get some sort of consensus.

A curve is described as tangent if it is tangent to the preceding course.

A line can be described as tangent if it follows a curve.

Note that the preceding and following courses may not be tangent lines but instead are curves whose tangent is continued as a tangent for the other curve.

A curve may be describd as non-tangent if it is non-tangent to preceding and following courses. Generally one must add the direction of curvature or whether the curve is concave or convex to a certain direction.

Not all non-tangent curves should be described as such. Many curves are radial to the preceding or following courses. A curve that is radial to the preceding and following courses can generally have the concavity discerned. "; thence along a radial curve" or "; thence leaving said curve on a radial line".

In Peter Ehlert's sketch (third reply) a curve is tangent if it continues in the direction of the previous course, otherwise it is a reverse tangent. You are reversing the direction of travel, (follow the footsteps).

It takes at least three elements to define a curve for description purposes;

1. Arc Length, Radius and Tangent (stated or assumed). Tangent gives a Bearing In or Out.
2. Arc Length or Chord Length, Radius and Chord Bearing.
3. Tangent Length (actually 2 elements) and Deflection
4. Radius, Chord Length and Bearing.

Paul in PA


 
Posted : July 20, 2016 8:26 am
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Holy Cow, post: 381756, member: 50 wrote: [USER=6823]@lmbrls[/USER]

Oh, and, spelling police here.................

It is a moot point. I'm not sure what a mute point is, in polite society, today.

Brother Cow. If I was he who never admits an error, I would say that it is mute because no one whats to talk about it; however, you are completely correct in that I used the wrong word. Thanks for the observation. One of the most important things for us to do is to communicate clearly. I have two exes that have indicated that I need serious work in this area or at least that is the polite way to say it.


 
Posted : July 20, 2016 8:53 am
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You, too, eh?


 
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