I was looking into getting my CT license for work that my company anticipates.?ÿ I downloaded the COA form/app, and it states:
NO PROFESSIONAL CORPORATION (PC) OR LIMITED LIABILITY COMPANY (LLC) WILL BE GRANTED A
REGISTRATION UNLESS THERE IS A 100% OWNERSHIP BY LICENSED ENGINEERS OR LAND SURVEYORS
I don't see any interpretation other than that all the owners of a company have to licensed.?ÿ That isn't the case with my company, as I am an employee, and the owners aren't surveyors, and only one of them is a licensed PE.
I understand the need to have a licensed surveyor of record on the COA, but I don't see how ownership of the company comes into play.?ÿ Is this even legal??ÿ It seems that they're limiting practice to those who are either solo or own their own company, and excluding those who, while licensed, don't have ownership in the company they work for.
Am I misunderstanding something??ÿ Are there any CT surveyors here who can clarify if I am?
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CT license ?
COA - Certificate of Authorization?ÿ
Connecticut Land Surveyors license
COA = Certificate of Authorization/Registration for Professional Land Surveying Company
That regulation (or statue?) always seemed like an unfair restraint of trade to me.?ÿ It will stand as "legal" until someone sues them in court and wins.?ÿ I've got no interest in working in CT, so I won't be leading the charge.
Isn't that regulation just stating that they won't issue a COA to professional corporations and professional limited liability companies that don't comply with the existing state incorporation regulations which already require 100% licensed ownership to incorporate using those two entities??ÿ
At first glance doesn't seem to apply to "standard "C or S corps?ÿ
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This policy has solid roots.
Once upon a time I worked for an LS who's business was a WBE. His wife 'owned' the larger stake in the company and they dominated small transportation projects. Extending that further, I routinely had to refuse to violate laws and rules. Sometimes it was because she didnt know better, ?ÿother times it wss bevause she was a dirtbag.
After I left she divorced and fired her husband. She thought she won. When the law changed she discovered how small our community is and folded up like a lawn chair...
Isn't that regulation just stating that they won't issue a COA to professional corporations and professional limited liability companies that don't comply with the existing state incorporation regulations which already require 100% licensed ownership to incorporate using those two entities??ÿ
At first glance doesn't seem to apply to "standard "C or S corps?ÿ
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That explanation makes sense.?ÿ So, we're probably ok, since we're a standard corporation. Thanks
This policy has solid roots.
Once upon a time I worked for an LS who's business was a WBE. His wife 'owned' the larger stake in the company and they dominated small transportation projects. Extending that further, I routinely had to refuse to violate laws and rules. Sometimes it was because she didnt know better, ?ÿother times it wss bevause she was a dirtbag.
After I left she divorced and fired her husband. She thought she won. When the law changed she discovered how small our community is and folded up like a lawn chair...
Sadly, it's tough to legislate away all of the dirt bags.
The way I've always looked at this is that you can work as a licensed surveyor?ÿfor a utility company and do surveys for their projects, work for a mine and survey for it, but the utility company or mine can't offer surveying services to the public at large.
Think of this also, if you have owners without a license they have no "skin" in the game. Or at least that's the theory.
I'm not arguing for the regulation, I'm more of a less is better type when it comes to regulations.
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Think of this also, if you have owners without a license they have no "skin" in the game.?ÿ
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What about publicly traded companies like AECOM, Stantec, Tetra Tech, etc.?
What happens when a licensed partner dies? When an unlicensed partner appears via inheritance...
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What happens when a licensed partner dies? When an unlicensed partner appears via inheritance...
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Hope they got life insurance ??ÿ
There must be a licensed person on the full time staff for each office.
They do not have to be an owner in most states, some do require that.
Without a licensed person on staff, the company can not offer or perform any surveying until one has been placed on staff.
There must be a licensed person on the full time staff for each office.
They do not have to be an owner in most states, some do require that.
Without a licensed person on staff, the company can not offer or perform any surveying until one has been placed on staff.
I presume that's the TX requirement you're talking about there.?ÿ Not all states have that.?ÿ
In some states you can be the responsible LS for multiple offices.?ÿ In some cases maybe that's not enough, but in others, I could see the TX rule being overkill.?ÿ Depends on the situation, and what the LS is comfortable with, as long as he's not allowing himself to be bullied by ownership.
I've seen a lot of "consultant" surveyors in my time, and I know that most boards don't look favorably upon that type of arrangement.
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