How did that friend deal with it when he had more than one person he was willing to show up for the next morning?
show up set enough stakes to get them going move on to the next job. He was just him and a helper, mostly office building projects
construction companies cannot wait for the surveyor to show up in 2-3-4 days
Any Super worth half his weight in salt should be able to prevent this from being an issue 95% of the time with proper planning and project management.?ÿ It's fascinating to me that a project will come to a screeching halt with no stakes and yet such a critical task doesn't garner enough importance to forecast out on the schedule a couple days before it's needed.?ÿ "Our pipe is showing up this afternoon, if we don't have stakes in the morning the pipe crew will pull off and can't be back for another 2 weeks!"?ÿ And how long have you known about this pipe delivery, yup, that's a you problem!?ÿ Bringing layout in-house isn't going to fix a lack of planning.?ÿ ?ÿ ?ÿ?ÿ
I whole heartedly agree with you there.?ÿ Even though we are some of the most important (and cheapest) people on the site, we always seem to be an after thought until it's too late.?ÿ I've been working diligently on changing that perception amongst Super's and Project Management in my company anyway.?ÿ Kind of like being a mole!
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The real question is why the Operating Engineers have let the Carpenters, etc take their work. See if the Carpenter's union likes it if the Operating Engineer starts building some stuff out of wood on the site.
Yet, the crane operator, the elevator operator, the various other operating engineers just keep working while the Carpenter lays out walls.
It blows my mind. This really is more about the trades infringing on each other.
so... I'm going to disagree with that a bit. Union carpenters, or electricians and plumbers for that matter, have always had responsibility for layout of their own work. It's just that these days they use tools we associate with surveying.
The last few years I've been seeing "composite crews", that is, a two person crew with one iuoe surveyor and the other person being a carpenter.
I had an IMan quit me in the mid 90s and moved out to Georgia or somewhere out East of the Mississippi River to be the stakeout person for a major concrete company.
The first day out there he called me up and ask me how to download the drawing plans into his robot.
When I ask what brand of instrument and about the computer and data collector and software they had, he asks "What computer and what software and what data collector, they just bought a robot, a prism and tripod?"
The company had bought a robot and nothing to support the use of the robot and he had no clue what I was trying to explain to him because my HP48GX with SMI was still a mystery to him even though he was a wonderful IMan and could turn great angles with the Sokkia SDM3E manual TS.
So, even by having part of or all of the equipment needed to layout plans does not necessarily mean there is anyone there that knows what to do with what they have.
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