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(@john-giles)
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I'm thinking about starting to charge by the foot. I've thrown this around some over the years but never did it.

I just finished a survey where the boundary was 8,265 feet.

Can anyone guess how many acres it was? The length given is just the boundary. Tie lines and such not included.

I'm in the middle of another one where the boundary is 2.19 miles. Care to guess the acreage?

 
Posted : July 9, 2010 7:51 am
(@dave-karoly)
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I just finished three miles of boundary. I'm still working on putting up bearing tree tags.

 
Posted : July 9, 2010 7:53 am
(@handyman6047)
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I did that in a past life for wetland lines.

 
Posted : July 9, 2010 8:07 am
(@derek-g-graham-ols-olip)
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98 acres ?

Do I win the prize?

TNAI:-D

 
Posted : July 9, 2010 8:16 am
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i use the $ per foot method for quick estimating for phone quotes. i check it out on google to see what i am getting into before i throw out a number. $1 per foot is a nice place to start for boundary. add another $1 per foot to mark the line.

i would guess 50 acres?

 
Posted : July 9, 2010 8:28 am
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What method do you presently use?

I use the square root of the acreage times a factor as a start, then modify as appropriate for mitigating/agravating factors such as terrian, ground cover, length of boundary, screwed up title and etc.

 
Posted : July 9, 2010 8:31 am
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0.19 acres, 5565' wide and 1' long.
jud

 
Posted : July 9, 2010 8:32 am
(@bill93)
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It would seem that a more general formula would be
$A times the number of corners times a factor for difficulty of locating
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$B times the perimeter length times a terrain factor

 
Posted : July 9, 2010 8:50 am
 jud
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No formulas, if they want a cost quickly on the phone, I use my best guess times a factor of 5. If they will give me a chance to do some research, I will, after doing that research they will get a fixed price. If I miss something, that is my problem not the clients.
jud

 
Posted : July 9, 2010 9:01 am
 JB
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For reasonably regular tracts I use the square root of the area x 5 x $1 as a starting point. The extra side is for ties and meandering traverse.
Of course this is completely dependent on field conditions. I always give a "not to exceed" price in the contract. I give myself plenty of time (money) for problems. That number gets stuck in the clients head and when they get a bill for less, they are happy as hell to write that check!

 
Posted : July 9, 2010 9:24 am
(@steve-gardner)
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Maybe some places the size of the property is the main factor in pricing a survey, but I find that's rarely the case. A 1/4-acre lot generally takes just as much work, if not more than a 40-acre lot.

 
Posted : July 9, 2010 9:31 am
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The first one is 28.73 Acres. 8,265 feet around that bad boy. I made money on this one because I had done so much work around the parcel previously. I knew what I was getting in to. About half of the boundary followed the center of a road. Heck I only had to set one corner. I had already set the rest of them years ago for others. 🙂

Second one with 2.19 miles around it is about 90 Acres with 18 corners. Still working on it. I dun lost my butt on this one. NEVER take the clients word EVEN IF they are your friend. Better yet NEVER WORK FOR A FRIEND! As a rule if a friend asks me to survey I DON'T. But for some reason I got talked into it by this 'friend'.He got me on this one. He got me goooood! Started with a sob story, offered the moon, and said there was a road all the way around it. 'I can drive all the way around it GILLIS!' HA!

As you can see the standard math doesn't work. Usually though it's only different by a thousand or so feet. And when deeds miss closing by a bunch its difficult to know up front the actuall distance around it. The first one had no calls, it was bounded only. The second one had backwards calls and missing distances. I've spent a few days in the courthouse wrangling that beast. I got it tied down now.

Right now I charge by the acre with a minimum fee. I add to the price as the number of corners go up and the farther it is from the office, also I take into account for which county and base it off my previous knowledge of the area the job is in. I can generally make money this way, however in WV and I'm sure the other colonial states, small acres can equal a long boundary.

 
Posted : July 9, 2010 9:47 am
(@stephen-johnson)
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8,265 feet perimeter = 98.01 ac or less. Could be much less 200'x 3,932.5 = 18.06 ac.

 
Posted : July 9, 2010 11:24 am
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We have 10 and 15 acre tracts that are an 'acre wide' with the front 100' being open and dry and the back 2000' - 3000' being swampy.

 
Posted : July 9, 2010 11:24 am
(@gordon-svedberg)
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If it is not in a flood hazard I find that the square root of the acreage times your minimum fee for a lot survey works fairly well for an estimate.

 
Posted : July 9, 2010 12:10 pm