When labeling a line that happens to fall on one the cardinal directions, how would you label the bearing ? I.E., the bearing is "East", to the second, do you label it "East", or N90°00'00'E ? And would you do the same when writing a legal description ? I prefer "East", but some reviewers have commented that "East" doesn't show the call to the nearest second.
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"some reviewers have" ................... been educated beyond the limits of their intelligence, 't'would seem.
Ask 'em if they went "South" how far is it to hit Bay Pines !
YOS
DGG
"East" shows the call as 90 or 90 00 or 90 00 00.0000 to an unspecified precision. It doesn't say whether you eyeballed it, used a compass, or used the best available measurement technology.
If you are using significant digits elsewhere to indicate the likely error, then you need significant digits here. Lacking them, some people may mistake "East" for "Easterly"
Assuming there are other labeled lines on the document (for example, S 72° 37' 14" W), I would use N 90° 00' 00" E if for no other reason than consistency.
Plus, what Bill said.
It is standard practice in mapping to refer to the Cardinal Directions as "North", "South", "East" and "West". Several state's MTS demand such a notation. The N00°00'00"E is a lawyer affectation and shows a lack of knowledge of standard proceedures in our field. In my mind it's the same as "major" and "minor" contours. Terms invented by software writers that did not know the proper nomenclature.
Wouldn't "Due East" (or Due North, etc.)satisfy?
The situation does not state the basis the bearings of the description. East could be related to a given line (basis of bearing).
Never use DUE East when the basis is based on Grid Bearings or anything else than true bearnings.
DUE implies an astronomic bearing!
If of record, I show record as the record shows and also show measured. Old calls and new do not create confusion that way on the record of survey filed in the survey records.
jud
Years ago a local title company assigned a new manager. She was new to the title business world and had to catch up, so she was scheduled for training seminars and classes.
Anyway, almost immediately, she started questioning and picking at many little details of my property descriptions (others too as I am told).
This question about spelling out NORTH, SOUTH, EAST and WEST became one of them.
I use them and have always have. Every real surveyor I've worked with and for used them.
Basically, it is not up to anyone checking or reviewing our work to make a request that we change to what they prefer. Especially when we are not wrong. Not their choice.
The choice is yours.
> The situation does not state the basis the bearings of the description.
Wattles used to say the first course establishes the BoB and all following courses are relative to that... I say let's just dumb it down to the new 90 Day Wonders/Black Box Boys.
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There was a recent plan posted the other day about back of block surveying discrepancy and remarking with offset corner calls and I noticed that one bearing on that plan was written East.
RADU
EAST says the same a N 90° E or S 90° E.. The bearings or called direction on a map is relative to the previous and following course. It really does not matter what one uses as long as it can be followed
If you like the word “due” you might want to look up the disastrous court case in California involving the word.
From Wattles:
"The cardinal directions, North, South, East, West, are bearings with the angular measurement from the meridian omitted, since these angles are 0° or 90° (North is the same as N 0°; East is the same as N 90° E)."
"The word ‘due’ in association with bearings is definitely superfluous and frequently misconstrued; it is not a satisfactory call and should not be used."
When i first added the quadrant bearing listing option to Copan, i mistakenly used "Due" before the cardinals (it sounded more precise) until a user made the comment about astronomical. Now Copan just names the cardinal (when it is within 0.5"). Of course, i should add the option to keep things as N/S 90°00'00" E/W, for those who prefer it.
