Below is a portion of a legal description. No basis of bearing called out.
I have never seen directions called out like this and distances to 3 place. Who does this and how?
S. 151 degrees 09 minutes 37 seconds E. 187.094 feet, S. 187 degrees 44 minutes, 53 seconds W. 939.691 feet, S. 212 degrees 57 minutes 49 seconds W. 495.585 feet
I'm hoping that maybe since they went to 3 digit on the distances they also were trying for extra accuracy, but forgot to put in the decimal point. Like this: "S. 15.1 degrees ...
Which still wouldn't make much sense either. But it maybe the thought pattern.
looks like az to me
Yes it appears to be az'ys but for some reason I think not. Just a feeling though.
run a closure
How old is the description. Probably the result of some fancy newfangled software that no-one knows how to use.
Looks like somebody who is not familiar with quadrant bearing notation but is trying to express them that way. They took azimuth and put the quadrant letters around it.
151-09-37 is in the SE quadrant
187-44-53 is in the SW quadrant
212-57-49 is in the SW quadrant
That kind of goes along with the 0.001 ft resolution, since they have no practical feel for tolerances, either.
Don't have my computater with me. So I'm guessing it works when you run it as an azimuth/distance deed? Good catch! Just haven't seen the quadrants added in before since it isn't necessary. Which just messes up the reading of a deed that is not a standard format.
> Below is a portion of a legal description. No basis of bearing called out.
> I have never seen directions called out like this and distances to 3 place. Who does this and how?
>
> S. 151 degrees 09 minutes 37 seconds E. 187.094 feet, S. 187 degrees 44 minutes, 53 seconds W. 939.691 feet, S. 212 degrees 57 minutes 49 seconds W. 495.585 feet
I would say it's Azimuths written by someone who has no idea what he/she is doing. 151 is in the SE quad, 187 is in the SW quad, 222 is in the SW quad ... of course, with Azimuth, quad is irrelevant. Someone was just trying to make their legal look surveyorly.
EDIT ... LOL. Bill must have posted while I was typing. I concur with Bill.
I think you're right. I'd try running them like that and see if it closes.
> How old is the description. Probably the result of some fancy newfangled software that no-one knows how to use.
Just what I was thinking. Using "Write Legal Description" in some CAD program and not knowing how to set the defaults.
My guess is that it was written by an attorney that didn't know any better. Though I can definitely agree that this may have been spat out of some computer software somewhere. But yea, lol, what kind of egg/knuckle head puts quadrants on bearings AND calls out distances to the thousandth.
I think Bill hit the nail on the head: they are quadrants.
Are they Hewlett-Packard quadrant notations or trigonometry notations?
(One goes clockwise from the northeast and the other goes counter-clockwise.)
> But yea, lol, what kind of egg/knuckle head puts quadrants on bearings AND calls out distances to the thousandth.
(it looks like he was putting quadrant on azimuths)
the kind that knows just enough to be dangerous.....it is after all - apparently, a part of an existing legal description...:-|
> I think Bill hit the nail on the head: they are quadrants.
>
> Are they Hewlett-Packard quadrant notations or trigonometry notations?
>
> (One goes clockwise from the northeast and the other goes counter-clockwise.)
Maybe that's why the included the quadrant notation on the azimuths. The quadrant notations give confirmation that they were using clockwise azimuths. As several have already commented, just enough knowledge to be dangerous.
Yep I think Bill has it right.
I agree I would run a closure to check.
Haha...
The paralegal kicked it out with a software, and even knew enough to write out the "degrees, minutes, and seconds", instead of the symbology that might confuse someone with feet and inches. Then the boss, the attorney, recognized that he didn't put in the quadrants, so he was ordered to and the quadrant abbreviations.
I'm sure it will close well, they have the distances to the nearest thousandth of a foot.
> Below is a portion of a legal description. No basis of bearing called out.
> I have never seen directions called out like this and distances to 3 place. Who does this and how?
>
> S. 151 degrees 09 minutes 37 seconds E. 187.094 feet, S. 187 degrees 44 minutes, 53 seconds W. 939.691 feet, S. 212 degrees 57 minutes 49 seconds W. 495.585 feet
I'd be interested to know whether using an approximate starting lat and long for the POB and treating the directions as geodetic azimuths and distances as ellipsoid distances whether the differences in latitude and longitude from point to point are some even fraction that would be consistent with values taken from some public source satellite imagery and run through a geodetic inverse computation to get the directions and distances.
Or are the differences in lat and long consistent with the precision of a consumer-grade handheld GPS receiver?
