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Attributes in Carlson SurvCE 2.5

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(@iapls)
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We are trying to set up our Carlson SurvCE so that we can take one shot at the center of a storm manhole, and have the data collector prompt us for attributes for each pipe.

So we want a shot called "stmh"
then we want the data collecr to to prompt us for "pipe1"
Then we want it to prompt us for "direction"
then we want it to prompt us for "size"
then we want it to prompt us for "pipe material"
then we want it to prompt us for "depth"

then we want the data collecr to to prompt us for "pipe2"
Then we want it to prompt us for "direction"
then we want it to prompt us for "size"
then we want it to prompt us for "pipe material"
then we want it to prompt us for "depth"

then we want the data collecr to to prompt us for "pipe3"
Then we want it to prompt us for "direction"
then we want it to prompt us for "size"
then we want it to prompt us for "pipe material"
then we want it to prompt us for "depth"

We can get it to work for just one pipe. We would like this for up to 6 pipes with only one shot at the center of the manhole. Has anyone done anything like this with Carlson SurvCE 2.5?

 
Posted : March 7, 2011 9:39 am
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I would love to set that up, but it would need to be able to handle multiple pipes...

I have always wondered why no one has built a combo stake/as-built module for pipes/structures. If you could build your system in your DC, just like you do for roads, or if you could asbuilt and build the system in your DC, and then upload to ACAD it would save tons of time, cure many blunders and make me generally happy...

...well, happy if I had any contracts to stake pipes or asbuilt them...

 
Posted : March 7, 2011 3:30 pm
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Oh yeah, give the support people at Carlson a ring or email, they are actually very helpful!

 
Posted : March 7, 2011 3:32 pm
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I haven't used it in a while, but STK has a nice routine that allows you to mark multiple grades from one shot. Not sure about as-builts, we only used it for stake-out.

The old Wildsoft software we used for mapping allowed you to add up to 4 attributes to a single numeric code. As in a code 461 was sanitary sewer manhole, info 1 was N.12c.0402(North, 12" clay, 4.02' deep), info 2 was S.12c.0411(North, 12" clay, 4.11' deep), etc. and when you compiled the file, it created a plot file with a symbol; a manhole symbol that had attributes showing pipe size, type, direction and depth, for up to 4 pipes.

Wildsoft never really took off and it's no longer supported. Liscad is now developed by Leica, they might have brought this type of technology over, I've never used it. Maybe somebody who does will post.

Cheers,
Douglas Casement, PLS

 
Posted : March 7, 2011 4:01 pm
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I just ran a test using the Desktop Emulator of SurvCE and created a SurvCE Feature Code List with three sets of pipe attributes:

  • PIPE1-DIR whose prompt is Direction - Pipe 1
  • PIPE1-SIZE whose prompt is Size - Pipe 1
  • PIPE1-MATL whose prompt is Material - Pipe 1
  • PIPE1-DEPTH whose prompt is Depth - Pipe 1

(I duplicated this list into PIPE2 and PIPE3, respectively). When I took a representative shot and coded stmh for the description, I was presented with several pages of GIS attribute prompts for my three pipes. Since SurvCE could only display three attributes at a time, I had to use the Next button repeatedly to get to the other pages of attributes.

The only change you'd want to consider would be to keep the field names to (e.g. PIPE1-DEPTH) to something relatively short and simple (P1DEPTH) since the dBase file structure used in ESRI SHP files only permits field lengths up to 10 characters with no spaces.

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Ladd Nelson

 
Posted : March 8, 2011 5:14 am
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Have you tried usng the vertical offset in FTF to log the various flowlines?

 
Posted : March 8, 2011 6:14 am