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We mainly use machetes. On occasion we will use loppers as needed, and if blackberries are really, REALLY thick we use the gas-powered trimmer.


The only superior evidence is that which you haven't yet found.

 
Posted : December 24, 2015 12:10 pm
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Tried them all. Machetes are fine, but they don't have enough reach, and my arm gets sore shortly. Chain saw are good. But you have to haul them to use them, along with gas and oil, and if they don't run or the chain messes up every body is standing there looking at it. Ditch bank blades, aka brush hook, joe blade, k-blade, ect, have been my stand by for ever. One exception, I've stepped down to the 36 inch handle blade. The last few years I started using loppers more. Found that out by chance. I was working a ohp line survey with a couple of useless gents from the engineering firm I was working for. They couldn't cut squat with the brush hooks even thou they were trying to please me. At lunch looking out the window there was a home and garden center. I asked John if he had a company credit card. Yep! After lunch we went to the garden center to get them a pair of loppers. Back at the site they went to town clearing line. My thoughts are if it's bigger then what 3 whacks of the blade to down it, I'm going around it.


 
Posted : December 24, 2015 12:46 pm
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I can't use a machete. Heck I fixed a dining chair yesterday which involved some hammer work to tap it back together, it took some persuasion to get the chair back together (tight new dowel pins). Now I have pain under my right shoulder. I took one of the huge Ibuprofen pills they gave me when I strained my calf which is helping.


 
Posted : December 25, 2015 1:23 pm
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Coos Bay Knife is a machete blade attached to a length of axe handle. The name came from the town we got them from Coos Bay, Oregon. The machete handle is unriveted from the blade and bolted to an 18 ins. length of axe handle. A piece of metal, I think its called a blade guard, keeps brush from getting into your hand. The only problem was the axe handle allowed you to over stress the blade which made them prone to breakage. I don't know if they are still available but they look easy to make. It was the best brush cutting tool I ever used.


 
Posted : December 26, 2015 2:48 am
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johnbo, post: 350651, member: 8695 wrote: Coos Bay Knife is a machete blade attached to a length of axe handle. The name came from the town we got them from Coos Bay, Oregon. The machete handle is unriveted from the blade and bolted to an 18 ins. length of axe handle. A piece of metal, I think its called a blade guard, keeps brush from getting into your hand. The only problem was the axe handle allowed you to over stress the blade which made them prone to breakage. I don't know if they are still available but they look easy to make. It was the best brush cutting tool I ever used.

Thanks for the explanation. Sounds like a good tool; a smaller, lighter version of the brush hook, but real sharp.

I used a brush hook for years, still do. Never liked a machete. I always have a pair of Felco pruners on my belt, which work great for clearing small stuff, or the discrete clip that lets you see through a residential area.

This summer I had to get through some dry, brittle shrubs that were interlaced with vines. The brush hook did it, but it was tough going, so I got some Fiskar ratchet loppers on Kent's recommendation and they are amazing.

Another tool I use sometimes, when in upland brush, is the Svandik axe. I know some hate it, but it works for light clearing, is not too heavy and rides on my belt. No good for phragmites and greenbriars, but in the woods it is great.

Different tools for different situations.

Ken


 
Posted : December 26, 2015 3:14 am

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I too use the Felco pruners (riding on my belt) for 95% of my clearing line. They handle up to 1/2" limbs and brush one-handed. Depending on the species of the victim usually a second hand is needed to put some tension to allow for cutting up to around 1-1/2" diameter hardwood saplings and branches. A folding Felco saw generally handles most bigger obstructions and can make pretty quick work of them--they are quite sharp. For briars and multiflora rose, etc. a 1" x 1" a 4' hardwood lath's blunt end swung back and forth does a pretty decent job of beating them into enough submission to provide reasonable travel. The rose might require some further persuasion from the pruners.

In my early days it was always a machete. I never much cared for the sapling spears left behind -- they seemed like under the wrong circumstances someone could get hurt really bad. My right shoulder now would never tolerate that kind of activity.

Loppers and chainsaws get occasional use but it's been years since I picked up either. I probably should investigate a good set of loppers.

It's hard to beat the pruners and about once every year or two I replace the blade. The saws last for years usually. They are both quite easy to carry and have available all the time without needing to be carried by hand.

Pruners: http://www.felco.com/assets/pdf/FELCO%207_EN.pdf

Saw: http://www.felco.com/assets/pdf/FELCO%20600_EN.pdf


Licensed Land Surveyor
Finger Lakes Region, Upstate New York

 
Posted : December 26, 2015 4:14 am
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I carry a Fiskars 18in geared loper, Ontario 22in machete, youth size double bit axe and an 18volt sawsall with a limb blade on my ATV.


 
Posted : December 26, 2015 3:34 pm
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A Harris, post: 350688, member: 81 wrote: an 18volt sawsall with a limb blade on my ATV

Interesting, never thought of that and was unaware of the limb blade


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Finger Lakes Region, Upstate New York

 
Posted : December 26, 2015 7:00 pm
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dms330, post: 350705, member: 2118 wrote: Interesting, never thought of that and was unaware of the limb blade

http://www.amazon.com/94100-05-Pruning-Reciprocating-Blades-5-Pack/dp/B000BMBPGU/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1451195810&sr=8-5&keywords=sawzall+pruning+blades&apos ;">Skill THE UGLY

http://www.amazon.com/Bosch-RP125-12-Inch-Cutting-reciprocating/dp/B000FAPPAA/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1451195810&sr=8-1&keywords=sawzall+pruning+blades&apos ;">Bosch Pruning


 
Posted : December 27, 2015 12:01 am
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Scrub and line cutting for me entire has been courtesy these.
The axe is an ex racing (chopping) axe.
The slash hooks are amazing tools. Will cut anything from ferns, blackberries any scrub our bush can throwthrow at us, including 6" small trees.
Obviously first one has done a fair bit of work and now put out to pasture.
Even the others are well worn.
(the adze and hammer are just accessories)


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Posted : December 27, 2015 3:31 am

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There will always be humble jobs to do on a survey crew.

Brushing, digging, researching, compiling, considering, assembling evidence.

N


 
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I have?ÿ thought one of these might be useful

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http://www.capitalsurveyingsupplies.com/cold-steel-two-handed-machete-97thm/?utm_medium=googleshopping&utm_source=bc&_vsrefdom=adwords&gclid=CjwKCAiAweXTBRAhEiwAmb3XuwUKJh9-jB7mBZZcr_chYzvWOaKMuVFm0JG3YhtHiw5dAN9FlrBu1xoC4VMQAvD_BwE


 
Posted : February 6, 2018 1:40 pm
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If you try one, let us know how you like it...

?ÿ

N


 
Posted : February 6, 2018 3:43 pm
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Kris,?ÿ

Try one of these:?ÿ

Very easy to use. They cut bigger trees (up to 10"), all the yaupon around here, smaller tree branches, etc. You still would want a machete when cutting weeds and grass but it is still pretty good at that also.

The best things are that it is much safer than a machete and you will be nowhere near as tired at the end of the day.

Regards,

Jack

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Posted : February 6, 2018 4:40 pm
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This is like arguing about slot versus philips. Use the tool best suited for the job at hand. Some days its a machete, some its a saw...


 
Posted : February 6, 2018 4:55 pm

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I'm back to a machete more than anyting now. I used a bush hook for years, but my bad habit of swinging it one handed all the time caught up to me. I got a bad case of tendonitis in my elbow and had to give it a break. It did get broke out today though to clear out some sawbriar....right tool for the job.

Now, for the "Pacific NW"...... That's always been a pet peeve of mine, lol. Russia is the Pacific NW, Washington, Oregon.....That's the Pacific NE. I guess if it's just the NW part y'all are stoked about then I guess I would be OK with you calling it the American NW?ÿ ??ÿ


 
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Dagnabbit...there is only one Northwest in the US, those in Washington and Oregon are usurpers of the name?ÿ ??ÿ

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northwest_Ordinance


 
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I still have my Collins machete from 1974.


 
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Posted by: James Fleming

Dagnabbit...there is only one Northwest in the US, those in Washington and Oregon are usurpers of the name?ÿ ??ÿ

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northwest_Ordinance

Yeah! They usurped the Da Yoops.......how low can you go?


 
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Image result for washington and oregon are usurpers of the name

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The way I understand it; after moving to Washington in 1990. We are the part of the Northwest next to the Pacific Ocean. I lived in Coeur d'Alene Idaho, briefly, before moving to Puyallup, and they were The Inland Northwest. There's a huge difference...


 
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