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Trimble Sketchup - sad news today

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(@jimcox)
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I really like SketchUp.

So I was hugely dismayed by the email Trimble sent me today.

Apparently the software is going subscription only 🙁

Ah well - sigh - Bye Bye - it was great while I knew you.

Unfortunately (for them), it is not worth what I would be paying - and I'm NOT going to let Trimble (or any one else, for that matter) bleed me dry.

I don't mind paying for software - once !

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Posted : June 3, 2020 9:04 pm
(@beuckie)
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sad evolution indeed. Certainly if you already paid for the full version before. I don't mind paying maintenance as long as there are regular changes.?ÿ

I also don't like all these surveying companies buyin all these products : sketchup by Trimble, Bricscad by Hexagon, Clearedge by Topcon, ... Sad and not good evolution, it tends to choose the manufactorers gear with the software.

 
Posted : June 3, 2020 9:55 pm
(@jimcox)
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?ÿBricscad by Hexagon

oh no - wasn't aware of that one 🙁

am also not a fan of companies buying up the market - not good for the consumer and stifles innovation

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Posted : June 3, 2020 10:25 pm
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Wait a minute - I thought Sketchup was a Google product??ÿ What are its uses in the surveying world??ÿ That is sad news, and such a Trimble move.

 
Posted : June 4, 2020 5:18 am
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Let me think back to some of the good things we've lost over the years: Backdraft could change an AutoCAD drawing version without having to open an AutoCAD engine. A name escapes me but I remember paying $100 for a program that worked in AC 10 to create contour lines from points that had an easy way to alter the triangulation model, Generic CAD & Simplicity and Ashtech software to Trimble. Free Surveying magazines.

Paul in PA

 
Posted : June 4, 2020 5:24 am
(@andy-j)
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reminds me of paying the $400 for Google Earth PRO about a month before they gutted it and made it free.?ÿ ?ÿ grrrrrrr

 
Posted : June 4, 2020 5:31 am
(@peter-ehlert)
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@allen-wrench

Google often sells their apps. From see this
https://techcrunch.com/2012/04/26/sketchup-google-first-divestment/

 
Posted : June 4, 2020 7:13 am
(@peter-ehlert)
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@andy-j

I too got burned with that one... Google Sucks

 
Posted : June 4, 2020 7:14 am
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One of the reasons behind software by subscription is to take advantage of differentiation between capital and operating expenses in the US Tax Code; so if that doesn't apply down there you're doubly screwed.?ÿ ?ÿ?ÿ

 
Posted : June 4, 2020 8:33 am
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Posted by: @james-fleming

One of the reasons behind software by subscription is to take advantage of differentiation between capital and operating expenses in the US Tax Code; so if that doesn't apply down there you're doubly screwed.?ÿ ?ÿ?ÿ

perhaps the tax code was written to assist the rental market... (lobbyists have huge influence and control)

If I like and want the software I will Buy it.
If it is only for rent I will take a pass.

It's a big world out here, there is no need to kowtow to the demands of a group of vendors.

 
Posted : June 4, 2020 8:51 am
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@peter-ehlert and shortly thereafter, they removed the parcel map layer. Seeing the general location of tax map lines while doing a proposal without having to open another program was convenient

 
Posted : June 7, 2020 4:52 am
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@paul-in-pa

LI contour?

 
Posted : June 7, 2020 5:47 pm
(@jim-frame)
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I used LI Contour for awhile in the mid-90s.  It worked, but at the time it was kind of clunky.  I ended up springing for Eagle Point, as the user interface was so much better.  I'm sure LI Contour has advanced a lot in the last 25 years, and the price is certainly appealing (as it was in the '90s).  I'm just surprised to learn that it's still around!

 
Posted : June 7, 2020 6:27 pm
(@a-harris)
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@steven-metelsky

Most taxing entities or appraisal district offices will give surveyors a copy of their *.kmz file for free or a small charge to copying it to CD

Many have gone to what they call a map search option on their property search webpage.

 
Posted : June 8, 2020 12:02 am
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@james-fleming I would think it's to have a more continuous cash flow rather than have customers make purchases only every 10 years. Services is a growing trend in tech companies.  There are some people who don't care about ever using updated software until it stops working on their computer or handheld computer, but I prefer having access to new features. 

 
Posted : June 8, 2020 11:03 am
(@jimcox)
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@robertusa

When I setup a system, I need and expect it to keep working.

Some of our deadlines are tight and the penalties for missing them significant.

I don't want, and can't afford, to have things broken by a change to the software - especially when the software company isn't going to admit liability or to front the cost or the time of working out a fix. Geeks playing with things for the sake of playing do not impress.

And in this case, I'm sure not seeing usd$500 per annum worth of new features.

 
Posted : June 8, 2020 5:26 pm