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I'm new to the thread so I am not sure if I am suppose to search around for the answer so I suppose I will just ask the questions now and if it gets deleted like I said I'm new.

About a month ago I was introduced to using Survey Pro. I had no idea how to use it and still don't understand everything that is involved with it. I got very minimal training on the survey pro so I had to wing it. I tried to follow the steps that were given and did my best. So I was use to using a Leica Total Station that had, all of the software right on the total station and was use to that. create an unknown point...label it shoot a distance set the azthmith. and keep going from there.

With survey pro I got really confused. I made my unknown point set a backsite azthmith of 0. Set all my traverse points I got to the point where I wanted to close my point......Survey pro would not let me do it??????? I could not figure out how to close, and have no Idea how to close the angle either. Totally Lost. I tried to adjust it on the data collector by picking the points and I believe it shifted all the points I shot so the data was no good...Can Someone Please help me with this. I don't do a lot of surveying was use to leica but I don't think I will be using that type of total station with a data collector anytime soon. I was using a Nikon total station, not robitic but it wirelessly connected to the data collector I was using....any help with question would be great thanks.


 
Posted : January 17, 2017 1:50 pm
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Welcome friend. You have found the right place. You have used the correct procedure. Unfortunately, all the folks who will actually provide you help with this question must be busy at the moment. I am merely posting this to let you know these things and to say welcome, and also to help keep this thread alive for a few more hours until hopefully someone who will actually be able to help you comes along.

Bump, To The Top.
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Posted : January 17, 2017 9:53 pm
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Thanks Brad for keeping this to the top. I saw the thread earlier, but have been super busy.

What version of Survey Pro are you using? If you want, you can email me the job and raw files from the data collector, and I will try to find a few minutes to take a look.


 
Posted : January 17, 2017 10:05 pm
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My guess is that you tried to number your closing point the same as the the existing point, meaning if you started on 1 and that's your closing point survey pro won't let you store the closing shot as 1 it would have to be another number. In our description we call it =1 and store it as the next available number. The same would go for the closing angle but when you occupy the closing point you'd occupy your higher number. Since you've tried to adjust it I'm not sure that you can undo it in survey pro, maybe but I've never tried it. If it were me I'd process the RAW in carlson or whatever desktop software you have to fix it.

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Posted : January 18, 2017 7:45 am
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Jimmy Cleveland, post: 409714, member: 91 wrote: Thanks Brad for keeping this to the top. I saw the thread earlier, but have been super busy.

What version of Survey Pro are you using? If you want, you can email me the job and raw files from the data collector, and I will try to find a few minutes to take a look.

I will need your email address I won't have access to the data for a few days...


 
Posted : January 18, 2017 8:21 am

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Jamie Gilbert, post: 409747, member: 12421 wrote: I will need your email address I won't have access to the data for a few days...

Jamie,

jcsurvey at netzero dot net


 
Posted : January 18, 2017 8:22 am
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Jamie Gilbert, post: 409635, member: 12421 wrote: I'm new to the thread so I am not sure if I am suppose to search around for the answer so I suppose I will just ask the questions now and if it gets deleted like I said I'm new.

About a month ago I was introduced to using Survey Pro. I had no idea how to use it and still don't understand everything that is involved with it. I got very minimal training on the survey pro so I had to wing it. I tried to follow the steps that were given and did my best. So I was use to using a Leica Total Station that had, all of the software right on the total station and was use to that. create an unknown point...label it shoot a distance set the azthmith. and keep going from there.

With survey pro I got really confused. I made my unknown point set a backsite azthmith of 0. Set all my traverse points I got to the point where I wanted to close my point......Survey pro would not let me do it??????? I could not figure out how to close, and have no Idea how to close the angle either. Totally Lost. I tried to adjust it on the data collector by picking the points and I believe it shifted all the points I shot so the data was no good...Can Someone Please help me with this. I don't do a lot of surveying was use to leica but I don't think I will be using that type of total station with a data collector anytime soon. I was using a Nikon total station, not robitic but it wirelessly connected to the data collector I was using....any help with question would be great thanks.

Not sure how the DC is not letting you close the traverse to a point, in the field, that is. You can call any point anything you want, even if you've used it before. It'll ask you about over-writing, of course, but that's just in the coordinate file. All of the raw observations, angles, distances, descriptions, are still in the raw file.

I traverse and shoot monuments with the Multiple Sideshot routine, then import into Carlson Survey for editing, adjusting, etc. If you're adjusting in the DC, I've never done that, but I'd suggest doing it in whatever desktop survey software you have instead.


 
Posted : January 23, 2017 8:12 am
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Survey Pro requires closing point(s) to have new names, this is because of the way that it performs it's adjustments. All adjustments are purely coordinate based, no raw data is utilized only coordinates, so you can not overwrite the closing point(s) or else SP can not inverse the misclosures. The reason I say closing point(s) is because SP will adjust the coordinates and balance angles whether or not you actually turn the closing angle or not (by inversing the closing angle) I'm not a fan of that however. I still prefer doing my adjustments in a more robust desktop environment (StarNet, LDD, C3D, Magnet Tools etc) but for small one off jobs that you don't want to return to it is sufficient.

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Posted : January 23, 2017 11:08 am
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Randy Rain, post: 410514, member: 35 wrote: Survey Pro requires closing point(s) to have new names, this is because of the way that it performs it's adjustments. All adjustments are purely coordinate based, no raw data is utilized only coordinates, so you can not overwrite the closing point(s) or else SP can not inverse the misclosures. The reason I say closing point(s) is because SP will adjust the coordinates and balance angles whether or not you actually turn the closing angle or not (by inversing the closing angle) I'm not a fan of that however. I still prefer doing my adjustments in a more robust desktop environment (StarNet, LDD, C3D, Magnet Tools etc) but for small one off jobs that you don't want to return to it is sufficient.

RRain

Ok, didn't know that. I'd never bother with adjusting in the DC, since I bring my laptop in the field with every time, so it takes little extra time do the adjustment right there and then, if needed.


 
Posted : January 23, 2017 11:35 am