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Kevin Gaines
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In the field our crew shot a group of points in succession using the name / number field as 1-1, 1-2, 1-3 etc... Exactly what we want to show in the drawing. However, ALD 2007 does not recognize the point names in that point number format. Is there a setting that I can change in the drawing to allow it to receive those points in that exact format?


 
Posted : July 21, 2011 8:10 am
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Not that I've seen. it will not recognize point numbers with anything other than numeric values. It's easier to change the point number and then the description as you want it displayed in the ascii (or whatever format) file and then redownload the points.


 
Posted : July 21, 2011 9:47 am
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In Civil 3D, you can use the Point Name to hold that information. I can't remember if LDD had a Point Name - LDD is too far in the distant past for me (plus I think I've blocked a lot of it from memory, since that software was so painful in so many ways...).

If LDD didn't have a Point Name field, then you might be able to use XDRef stuff to do what you want, albeit that's likely getting more complicated than you really want.

Another alternative might be to use something like Excel to reformat your field numbers into some sort of alternate form, e.g. "1-1" becomes "10001", "1-2" becomes "10002", "1-10" becomes "10010", "2-1" becomes "20001", etc. Then import the points with the new numbers.

Another possibility is to import the field number as the description, ignoring the description assigned in the field, and using newly-generated point numbers. Or, if you can't lose the field-assigned descriptions, use Excel to take the field-assigned point number with the field-assigned description, and combine them into a single field, creating an NEZD (or ENZD) file. Then import that new file, assigning newly-generated point numbers in the process.


 
Posted : July 21, 2011 9:51 am
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> Rookie question poster... please be gentle
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> In the field our crew shot a group of points in succession using the name / number field as 1-1, 1-2, 1-3 etc... Exactly what we want to show in the drawing. However, ALD 2007 does not recognize the point names in that point number format. Is there a setting that I can change in the drawing to allow it to receive those points in that exact format?

You may have some excel work to do to manipulate the input file to match your desired product. This is shooting from the hip but here goes.

LDD and most cad products require a single numeric identifier for points. You can use point Names but not as the "Single numeric identifier." You can also use your format (1-1, 1-2, 1-3) as the description field if you desire that field to be displayed.

Ultimately you probably need to create a New Import points format.
P,N,E,Z,D,NAME or substitute the Name for Description.

Setting up a description key would allow a different Raw description and Full description as well. IE "1-25" raw = 25 TBC. ect.

I believe your Point database also needs to be setup to use names. (Check-box when creating a new project) Allow point names.


 
Posted : July 21, 2011 10:07 am
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Jered has you on the right track. I use LDD2000 and I know that there is a check box when you initially set up the point database for the job that allows the use of "point names". My understanding is that LDD will still assign numerical point numbers to your data, but your "point name" would be included in the database. I don't have any practical experience with point names in LDD200, but search for "point names" under help. LDD2000 has a good help section on "point names" hopefully your version does as well.


 
Posted : July 21, 2011 10:23 am
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LDD does handle alpha point ID's, but still has to assign some arbitray point number to each point.
AND alpha point ID's cannot begin with a number. You could have A1-1, but not 1-1.
Also PIDs can use dashes but not underscores.


 
Posted : July 21, 2011 12:50 pm
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Thanks to all

Thanks to everyone. I think I have found a couple of good angles for work arounds.

A good first beer leg experience.


 
Posted : July 21, 2011 12:53 pm