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(@carl-b-correll)
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If you use Clearprint "Design Vellum" (No. 1000HP) to print plats on... Check to make sure it is cut square BEFORE you buy it... The right edge of this sheet and 49 others is 0.2" short...

At least my local art supply store is going to give me refund for the rest of the pad. They said some of the other companies have been bad lately about cutting pads out of square, but not usually Clearprint.

 
Posted : May 12, 2011 1:29 pm
(@ryan-versteeg)
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> If you use Clearprint "Design Vellum" (No. 1000HP) to print plats on... Check to make sure it is cut square BEFORE you buy it... The right edge of this sheet and 49 others is 0.2" short...
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> At least my local art supply store is going to give me refund for the rest of the pad. They said some of the other companies have been bad lately about cutting pads out of square, but not usually Clearprint.
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All you have to do is adjust your heavy border line to be 0.2" short also and then you'll be parallel to the page;-)

 
Posted : May 12, 2011 1:33 pm
(@carl-b-correll)
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> All you have to do is adjust your heavy border line to be 0.2" short also and then you'll be parallel to the page 😉

uh... ok. I never thought of that :-p

I actually thought that it had come out of the printer askew... but, alas... it WAS the paper... for once.

 
Posted : May 12, 2011 1:35 pm
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I use rolls for both vellum and Mylar, so if its crooked its all me;-)

 
Posted : May 12, 2011 3:43 pm
(@carl-b-correll)
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> I use rolls for both vellum and Mylar, so if its crooked its all me 😉

I know the feeling... that used to be me too.

I thought about cutting it square with my paper cutter, but then the bottom border would crowd the bottom of the vellum. The QC of Clearprint basically hacked me off though... that's just pisss poor.

 
Posted : May 12, 2011 3:49 pm
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It would never show up in a blueprint Carl

 
Posted : May 12, 2011 3:57 pm
(@carl-b-correll)
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> It would never show up in a blueprint Carl

I hear ya, Paul. But, I don't have one available (actual blueprint machine that is). My Brother 6490 (or whatever) is a little particular about edges anyway, so I'm just trying to alleviate as many problems as possible from the outset.

 
Posted : May 12, 2011 4:04 pm
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CARL at least if U take Ryan's advice U will able able to

use sheet. However when they print a copy it will show up as a skew baseline.

Probably better to shorten you bold black line sides by a tad . ie so box not as deep,
so when printed it will just have a slight extra white border on the printed sheet along bottom, but still parallel to paper. That way authorities will be more likely to miss the suppliers mistake.

RADU

 
Posted : May 13, 2011 2:32 am
(@dan-rittel)
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Maybe its a cost saving measure. They're giving you slightly less product for the same price (or maybe prices have even gone up?). Probably saving them hundreds of dollars. You'd think they would have been smart enough to square up the edge though.

When we switched plotters here a few years ago, it wasn't as easy to swap the mylar & paper rolls, so we just keep the paper in (we don't use that much mylar anyway) and we cut our roll of mylar into sheets (to use the sheet feed for mylar) by printing blank 24 x 36 sheets. Well, who ever set it up didn't quite get 24 inches, so our sheets are about a 1/2-inch short.

 
Posted : May 13, 2011 4:03 am
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CARL at least if U take Ryan's advice U will able able to

> use sheet. However when they print a copy it will show up as a skew baseline.
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> Probably better to shorten you bold black line sides by a tad . ie so box not as deep,
> so when printed it will just have a slight extra white border on the printed sheet along bottom, but still parallel to paper. That way authorities will be more likely to miss the suppliers mistake.
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> RADU

I'm holding the manufacturer's feet to the fire. Why should I have to adjust when they sold me a sub-par product? It's laid-back and indifferent people that have caused all Quality Control to go straight into the crapper... not just in the paper industry, but EVERY industry. I understand that things happen, but when the art supply store told me it's become fairly regular... it's GAME ON!!

 
Posted : May 13, 2011 4:21 am
(@carl-b-correll)
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> Maybe its a cost saving measure. They're giving you slightly less product for the same price (or maybe prices have even gone up?). Probably saving them hundreds of dollars. You'd think they would have been smart enough to square up the edge though.
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> When we switched plotters here a few years ago, it wasn't as easy to swap the mylar & paper rolls, so we just keep the paper in (we don't use that much mylar anyway) and we cut our roll of mylar into sheets (to use the sheet feed for mylar) by printing blank 24 x 36 sheets. Well, who ever set it up didn't quite get 24 inches, so our sheets are about a 1/2-inch short.

I thought of that too. I could have dealt with it if it was square, but I'm not going to go crazy trying to cut 48 sheets of this stuff. They sell singles, so I'll do that until I need more. Like I said, I don't usually use vellum, but I do have to send it around the country, and I'd like for it to be fairly rugged.

 
Posted : May 13, 2011 4:24 am
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CARL at least if U take Ryan's advice U will able able to

No reason you should have to accept crappy product, let alone be forced to adjust to it. Yes, return it, demand satisfaction.

 
Posted : May 13, 2011 4:46 am
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"....but I'm not going to go crazy trying to cut 48 sheets of this stuff."

Well, everyone's got to decide how they want to spend their time, and I understand that frustration at shoddy production, but it took me four seconds to trim one sheet with a scissor, so 4 x 50 is what, about 200 seconds?

I'd guess you could do a few at a time with a razor knife. After all, you said they gave you a refund, so you are printing on free media now.

 
Posted : May 13, 2011 4:47 am
(@carl-b-correll)
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> "....but I'm not going to go crazy trying to cut 48 sheets of this stuff."
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> Well, everyone's got to decide how they want to spend their time, and I understand that frustration at shoddy production, but it took me four seconds to trim one sheet with a scissor, so 4 x 50 is what, about 200 seconds?
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> I'd guess you could do a few at a time with a razor knife. After all, you said they gave you a refund, so you are printing on free media now.

I do have to take it back so they can return it. You might be right... but this just hacked me off.

 
Posted : May 13, 2011 4:51 am
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I'm with you; make them replace it with a good set. There's no reason to buy precut sheets that aren't cut to the dimension you want. They should bring a new one to you-my supplier would.

 
Posted : May 13, 2011 6:15 am
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I think you made the right choice. In our area they lay your plat in a template. It has to be the right size, probably for their scanning or filing reasons. I think they would kick back on one that does not conform.

If you are paying for a certain size sheet then that is what you should get.

 
Posted : May 13, 2011 6:38 am
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I noticed that my toilet paper roll isn't as wide as they used to be too.
Talk about cutting costs....

 
Posted : May 13, 2011 8:34 am
(@carl-b-correll)
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> I'm with you; make them replace it with a good set. There's no reason to buy precut sheets that aren't cut to the dimension you want. They should bring a new one to you-my supplier would.

This was only for a $27 item. They don't deliver... I'm small time. Interesting though... They laid the whole tablet on a gridded table they have and it was all out of square. Top and bottom were parallel, but both sides were askew. I got some singles, and will really watch out the next time I buy.

 
Posted : May 13, 2011 9:12 am
(@carl-b-correll)
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> I think you made the right choice. In our area they lay your plat in a template. It has to be the right size, probably for their scanning or filing reasons. I think they would kick back on one that does not conform.
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> If you are paying for a certain size sheet then that is what you should get.

They feed our plats through here Deral, so I don't think it would matter. Interesting though... They laid the whole tablet on a gridded table they have and it was all out of square. Top and bottom were parallel, but both sides were askew. I got some singles, and will really watch out the next time I buy.

 
Posted : May 13, 2011 9:13 am