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I think there's a way to do this, but I can't find it.

Building a new fill alongside the existing fill at each end of the Ky Lake bridge that the Delta Mariner knocked down last year. Did an existing topo of the slope going from the side of the existing causeway fill down under water to depth of about 30' at 250' from shore. Not a consistent slope, starts steep, flattens out, then drops off again, and also ties into shore at each end. Have to place geotextile fabric under a new rock fill out to the toe of the new fill, so I need to figure out the actual lengths of fabric it will take along the bottom slope to reach the toe of the new fill. I can drape a pline at each cross section along the bottom surface to create a set with 3d points on the surface, but can't figure out a way to make it report the total of the slope distances between the points for the length of the line. I can create a profile on the same lines, but it still will station using horizontal distances.

Any ideas?


 
Posted : April 17, 2013 10:13 am
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Not sure in your situation, but under Settings, Units Settings, Distance Mode you can select Horizontal or Slope. I'd give that a try and see if it works.

Ken


 
Posted : April 17, 2013 11:48 am
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Already tried that, doesn't return slope distances in a report though.

Looked at creating report definitions, but that's a little deep for me.


 
Posted : April 17, 2013 12:15 pm
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From the menu - Reports/Geometry Inquiry or Reports/User defined/Geometry Report.
Hope this is what you need.


 
Posted : April 17, 2013 4:10 pm
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I called Trimble/Terramodel tech support about this very thing. Terramodel won't label slope distances, despite there being a setting. They were uninterested in providing a fix for this.


 
Posted : April 17, 2013 5:18 pm

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A little off subject but, did you ever get up and going on TBC? I am in the middle of a software change. C3D is more than I need and doesn't do GPS Static processing. I have been looking into Carlson and TBC. Surely between the two I can do just about anything. BTW, I was cced on an email recently regarding a little inquiry for some geometry. Give me a shout out if I can facilitate gathering any information you may need.


 
Posted : April 18, 2013 7:09 pm
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Assuming the lines you are working on are straight.

One way is to convert the line you are wanting to measure to a set (to ensure it has points).

Copy the line and points to a different location.
Rotate the line to a due east-west direction.
Then export those points and reimport them with the eastings left alone and swap the elevation into the northings column. Put a constant arbitrary value in the northings column.

This should get a line that looks like a profile, but in the plan view and the total length of the line is the length you are after.

In effect you have rotated the line 90 degrees along the east-west axis.

I'm sure that there is a proper command to give you the data you are after but this will get you out of trouble in the short term.


 
Posted : April 20, 2013 12:12 am
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Seb,
See my comment to 'Eddy'.
I like your work around, but GC10.tml is a bit simpler.
Regards,
Jerry


 
Posted : April 20, 2013 3:14 am
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I had thought about that, but there are a bunch of lines so it would be quite a chore. Gonna take Jerry up on his offer.


 
Posted : April 20, 2013 5:54 am
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Sorry Jerry, I wasn't aware that you guys operated in the US market. Those GC commands have (and continue to be) been a fantastic help to us.

Cheers Seb


 
Posted : April 20, 2013 6:06 am

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Seb,

Does this mean you have seen or used them before?

Jerry


 
Posted : April 20, 2013 6:27 am
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I looked at TBC, but from the demo I got there were several things it wouldn't do that Terramodel will, especially in creating complicated MC models. They were really pushing the feature of building models from plan cross sections, but I have yet to see a set of plan cross sections that were either correct enough, or detailed enough, to actually build a road by. Didn't look very Surveyor friendly at all for boundary work.

All I needed on the alignment thing was some coordinates to create the cross street centerlines. JP wouldn't give them to me, RM never did grasp what I needed, Angie tried but we couldn't open the files, finally got put in touch with somebody at JJR that may have understood it, supposed to try to get me something Monday.


 
Posted : April 20, 2013 7:21 am