My techs need help with InRoads. Any of you guys InRoads experts? I have pasted his question posted to another site here.
InRoads Question
We are using Powersurvey V8i and we have been tasked with putting our survey data in so that it draws the entire topo. We are using an .xin file and have the newest standards and cells from the COE. They have asked us to make the drawing works for a 1:20 scale. After I have loaded in all my data (in this case Sewer and Drainage Manholes) no matter what I do I can not get the cells to scale properly when I change the drawing scale. They remain the same size, on that same note one cell is larger than the other so this means that when I do get them to scale they will be different. Have any of you had this problem or can someone please give guidance as to what we are doing wrong. I'll be glad to give more detail if needed.
I can't help you specifically about the Inroads stuff, but as for the cells, it is easiest if they are ALL created at 1 to 1 size, so when they are then imported into your drawing at true scale you use the drawing scale to place them and not some factor of 10 or whatever.
The cells are from the Corps of Engineers library and they are inserting into the drawing at different sizes and won't respond to different scales.
I do not have Power Survey, I have the full blown Inroads. In it, you go to the Tools Menu and select Survey Options. There are ways there to set your cell scale and text scale. You can alwo do it in the INI file suing the editor built into Inroads. I don't use Inroads very often, but it can be done. Lee Green used to post here and he was and Inroads Instructor. Also Rob Mellis (Spelling) has posted here. Rob is a Geo PAK expert and might be able to point you in the correct direction.
🙂 You might need lots of this before this project is over. :beer: :beer: :beer::
We are just into the project and Lee is already sick of us. My tech read the post but won't be in tomorrow to try it- probably going for the beer.
Alan,
I've been traveling the past few weeks. Setting up GPS and machine control on Gas well sites in Northern PA for hydraulic fracturing (aka Hydro Fracking) last week. This week I was in Illinois, setting up GPS with a drilling fig and kelly bar for ISS work.
I tried contacting Aaron today, he emailed me back. Said he was in Missouri. Aaron sent me the COE xin files and cell library's. One problem I see is the that Aaron is creating 3d cells, while the origanl COE files are using 2d cells.
If you have anyone else running InRoads, have them call me or email and we'll set up a virtual desktop again to explore the problems.
Lee Green
> They have asked us to make the drawing works for a 1:20 scale. After I have loaded in all my data (in this case Sewer and Drainage Manholes) no matter what I do I can not get the cells to scale properly when I change the drawing scale. They remain the same size, on that same note one cell is larger than the other so this means that when I do get them to scale they will be different.
Alan -
I too have found great frustration with the COE's .xin file that is dispersed for use in dealings with the cells as well as the insertion for the points. At my office I have re-written ALL of the point detail code such that its actually USABLE. Makes a huge difference when I send it upstairs to the engineers for review and use.
Quick question on the scaling - are you attempting to scale the cells in the model space after insertion, or you trying to do it in the "paperspace?" ( Its paperspace in AutoCAD but I cant for the life of me remember what its called in MS. )
If this is the case, its going to go nuts for ya ( if they move at all) and cause huge headaches. The differences that are inherent with the placement using the .xin file will be negated when the scale of the drawing you are doing is done outside of the model space.
The cells that are used for the AEC CADD 4.0's scales are literally all over the map which I agree cause many more headaches than they solve in their utilization.
--mcaanda
