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(@350rocketmike)
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@oldpacer?ÿ

We never updated the one time we had a properly working version of Fieldgenius on our Leica conventional instrument.?ÿ

Lately I'm always updating because I figure it can't get any worse than what I have. I could very well be wrong though. Lol.

If I could figure out a way to run my Leica robot with Trimble access....

 
Posted : 30/06/2021 1:57 pm
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Posted by: @350rocketmike

If I could figure out a way to run my Leica robot with Trimble access....

 
Posted : 30/06/2021 2:32 pm
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@350rocketmike?ÿ ?ÿWhich is why I use 1990's software on my new Leica Robot.

 
Posted : 30/06/2021 2:51 pm
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@dougie?ÿ

It has options for other brands total stations including several leica's, one of our crews is already trying to switch to using it with their Leica TCR805. It actually has their model listed and the Leica 1100 robot but not my 1200.?ÿ

 
Posted : 30/06/2021 3:26 pm
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@350rocketmike?ÿ

Relations must be getting better; back in the day, they did not play well together...

 
Posted : 30/06/2021 4:04 pm
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@dougie?ÿ

I haven't seen it working yet on a Leica but did see the options in one of the latest versions of access.?ÿ

Also our other office that only has one crew runs a Nikon conventional instrument with an older version of access on a TSC3.?ÿ

Whether it will work properly on a Leica robot I don't know, but I do want to find out. We're slowly switching to all Trimble stuff because even though it's expensive, we've had less issues with it.?ÿ

I am curious how Carlson would run my Leica 1200 series compared to Fieldgenius though. Hopefully it has a lot less bugs.?ÿ

 
Posted : 30/06/2021 4:15 pm
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@350rocketmike?ÿ

I've had no issues whatsoever running Leica total stations with Carlson.

You can have Trimble, wouldn't ever touch that stuff again.?ÿ Loved TDS Survey Pro.?ÿ Access, no thanks

 
Posted : 01/07/2021 9:32 am
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@jph?ÿ

What were your issues with access? Old version or the recent (last couple years modern looking version). I believe what software you prefer is greatly affected by your workflow, type of surveying you're doing etc.?ÿ

I've never used Carlson but heard good and bad about it just like access.?ÿ

I despise Microsurvey and their horrible Fieldgenius because of all the glitches we've had, lack of ability to fix them and the fact that they completely left me out to dry with the Sokkia iX robot. Now with the Leica 1200 the glitches still aren't bad, but I wonder how it affects the raw data for the office when the software crashes at least once per job, sometimes several times. I will make sure to never recommend Microsurvey to anyone ever again. Nothing against their employees as they've made an attempt, but clearly do not have the resources to fix issues as they have been going on for years.?ÿ

 
Posted : 01/07/2021 9:48 am
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@350rocketmike?ÿ

It's been a few years, so I don't remember specifically.?ÿ I've use the old TDS on an HP, the SDR33, Survey Pro, and Carlson SurvCE.?ÿ Had no issues with any of those, even going back and forth from one to another.?ÿ Access just didn't feel right, but maybe it's because it was setup with way too many attributes, etc.

I remember 20 years ago looking at Microsurvey and Carlson for office software.?ÿ I guess I'm glad I chose Carlson

 
Posted : 01/07/2021 9:59 am
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@350rocketmike?ÿ

The "problem" with Access is that it does just about everything and allows for a lot of user customization.

It's not a problem if you have a wide variety of job types and want to leverage all the cool features. But if all you need are straight up fundamentals, then Carlson or Survey Pro or something similar works just great.

And I say that as an Access fanboy. I love the customizability and the ability to go from simple boundary to deformation monitoring to static network to PPK to hydro survey, etc. all within the same collector platform. Taking panoramas at station setups for office QC, running the LevelMe module for trig levels, scanning power poles with an SX station, all that jazz.

But it's not really necessary unless you're going to really make use of all those features. The interface is super simple, but once you start diving into the minutiae of all the settings it can get complicated.

 
Posted : 01/07/2021 10:11 am
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@jph?ÿ

So that was the old version of access, the newer one looks nothing like it. I only used it with GPS but my issue was the map screen was impossible to interact with. You had to always know what points you were using etc. Maybe I didn't spend enough time with it but I hated it compared to Fieldgenius at the time, an old version running a Leica tcr803 on a Microsurvey tracker extreme. It had very few issues and the map screen was good.?ÿ

Since then I've only used it on robots and they haven't got it right on any of them I've used yet. They also didn't update the keyboard to work with tablets so you get a tiny keyboard 1/3 the size of the screen for typing.?ÿ

 
Posted : 01/07/2021 10:23 am
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@mark-silver You are more than welcome to post here without moderation. Perhaps you mean approval from within your own circle?

 
Posted : 01/07/2021 5:05 pm
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@350rocketmike?ÿ

Maybe, but I didn't like it, regardless.?ÿ All the others I've tried have been fairly intuitive, so I don't really have a need for the pain of another.

 
Posted : 02/07/2021 3:42 am
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@rover83?ÿ

Can you use other brands of GNSS receivers (i.e. Emlid RS2) via NMEA??ÿ Or also other brands of robotic total stations besides Trimble's? $$$$$$

Or does the software just lock everything else out if not Trimble or even Focus?

 
Posted : 12/07/2021 12:26 pm
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@timd1971?ÿ

Like most other manufacturers, Trimble supports Trimble best, with a small number of additional instruments.

I wouldn't even want to try and keep up with compatibility issues across the range of geospatial equipment available today, considering how often software/firmware is updated and features are added. Trimble's software teams have their hands full getting it right with their in-house gear.

And as a former Trimble tech support guy, it's hard enough to get folks to relay coherent and correct information about a technical problem; when someone throws a third-party item in the mix, it's darn near impossible to solve any compatibility issues, especially over the phone.

 
Posted : 12/07/2021 1:14 pm
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