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I have been tinkering with my field to finish file for awhile now. It does pretty good for the most part, and it is constantly a work in progress.

I have three codes for line work that are pretty generic. They are:
Line
Line 1
Line 2

My line work generally works okay, with minimal editing. On this job, which is a topo survey of an existing access road for a repaving project. I have some striping that I have shot in as Line 1 and a second stripe as Line 2. The line work is looking okay, until I end a Line 1, and start another Line 1. When I start the second Line 1, my Line 2 grabs that Line 1 Start code, and then the linework zig zags between Line 1 and Line 2 for he rest of the run (about 800-900') or so.

It would not be teribbly difficult to manually edit this one project, but I am wanting to keep improving the linework so that it streamlines my office work.

Do you have any suggestions? I have tried deleting the code entry in the *FLD file, and re-adding the code.

Here is a image of the area where the linework started messing up.

Here is a link to my field file. I hope it works.
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/75831523/TPLS.FLD

Please right click and do a save as to look at the linework file.

Thanks in advance


 
Posted : December 5, 2013 10:49 pm
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No Carlson user here but the space between your code 'Line' & the 'linenumber' may be the problem. The F2F packages that I know need both as 1 string 'Line1', when separated the '1' may be treated as an extra attribute, when not defined in your offices software nothing happens with that value.

just a guess!

Chr.


 
Posted : December 6, 2013 12:20 am
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> No Carlson user here but the space between your code 'Line' & the 'linenumber' may be the problem. The F2F packages that I know need both as 1 string 'Line1', when separated the '1' may be treated as an extra attribute, when not defined in your offices software nothing happens with that value.
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> just a guess!
>
> Chr.

:good:
your codes shouldn't have a space in them unless you are recording a multi-code point.
Your starting code should be "line1 st" then "line1"..."line2 st"...."line2"..."line1" etc.
I've been working on our FLD file for about 2 years now. I don't think its possible to have a code for everything. :-/

Good Luck!


 
Posted : December 6, 2013 12:28 am
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Is your cad drawing all in one layer when you finish? If not, I'd be inclined to name codes similar to my layer name. CL EP TB TS FL etc.

If you don't want start codes and end codes then you just start a new line number. All the shots on the east ep of dirt road A are coded EP1 the west EP2. The side road teeing in may be EP3 and EP4 on the north and south sides. Your layer doesn't need to be exactly what your code is. EP could go to layer EDGE_OF_PAVEMENT or something.


 
Posted : December 6, 2013 12:48 am
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Thanks for the replies. Stephen Ward gave me a call, and it was indeed the space between the Line and the 1.

Thanks for the replies. Your suggestions are dually noted, as my field to finish 1s a work in progress. I am constantly working on it to make it better.


 
Posted : December 6, 2013 1:06 am

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Keep in mind that it has been well over 8 or so years since I've done this but I'll do my best to try to remember.....

The spaces were messing you up, by the way. I did remember that.

I think part of what you didn't mention was the additional use of the special codes - specifically "Begin line" and "End line".
By default they are "+7" and "-7" respectively. We used "Z" and "ZZ" respectively.

I'll use a simple example that I remember - BC "back of curb" and my "Z" and "ZZ" codes.
If you are going to run a single BC just start with a "BC Z", shoot all the shots you want and end it with "BC ZZ".

Now let's run 2 at the same time:
start the first 1 with "BC Z"
start the next with "BC2 Z"
Now you can both at the same and other stuff as well.
When done with say the 2nd one before the first simply shoot it with "BC2 ZZ" and you can keep running the first "BC" line until you end it with the "ZZ" shot.
But let's say you aren't done with it yet. BC2 is available to be re-used again.
Just start another "BC2 ZZ" and you can keep on running the first until done.

But let's say the first stops before this new BC2 is done. Fine, simply close out the first with "BC ZZ" but BC2 is still open until it's closed with a corresponding ZZ. In the mean time "BC" is available again.

Just don't get them overlapping else you'll end up with zigzags as you saw.
Now that I wrote all that using BC, perhaps "edge of sidewalk/concrete" (EC) would have been a better example. Shooting both edges of a sidewalk would be a prime candidate for running 2 lines simultaneously.

You know you can check your line work drawing in the field don't you? Assuming you have your layers on the data collector that is. I think it's somewhere in the map view - tools - F2F - redraw or something. I don't remember.

Like I said, it's been a long time since I've done F2F and I no longer have access to equipment or software to tinker with it anymore. I sure do miss it!!

Hope I didn't confuse the issue. Between me and my old party chief keeping each other straight, we got really good at it.
It sure is cool stuff when get it working nicely.
E.


 
Posted : December 6, 2013 11:07 am