Hi There:
Have any of you C3D users figured out a way to add record data to a curve table without exploding it? I've been searching all over the Adesk discussion board, but didn't come up with anything real useful.
Basically, all I would like to do is to edit each piece of data in the table individually and add the record dimension to it that way (similar to what you can do with normal line and curve labels). It isn't the best, but it works. So far, I can't seem to be able to do that, so I'm looking for other suggestions.
I did see a discussion where Sinc possibly had a solution in mind. I went through my Sincpac help menu and his website, but sure didn't see anything. Maybe it is titled something else and I wasn't smart enough to figure it out?
Also, does anyone know if you can add user defined attributes to a label? Similar to what you can do with points to add station and offset, origin and description, etc.?
Thanks guys,
Paul
Was fooling around with the tables, but couldn't come up with anything and havene't had the time to revisit it, so I will be looking forward to the responses as well.
I haven't messed with points, but the properties of a parcel allow you to enter a description on each individual one, you just need to have the description showing in the style, maybe points are similar.
I don't know what you really mean in exploding your table just to be able to add record to your curve elements table. You'll loose the essence of BIM technology if you do this.
First create a curve elements table and design it to your needs. Create an alignment segment label style and have its display mode as tag and not as label. Tag (label) the alignment curve segments. Insert curve elements table and select the tag texts. Boom, you have your curve elements table.
Hope this helps.
Regards,
Arnel M. Domag
nth geographics and geometrics
Davao City, Philippines
> I don't know what you really mean in exploding your table just to be able to add record to your curve elements table. You'll loose the essence of BIM technology if you do this.
Arnel, have you ever stepped outside and surveyed?:-|
Yes I'm being facetious. Surveyors don't care about a BIM interface. Let alone on a 2D object like a horizontal curve. What Paul is after, I assume, is showing his measured data vs. the record data he is working with on a map/plat/RS.
Paul, I have not found a "good" way to do what you're after. I have exploded my curve tables as well. It's just faster that way, rather than messing around with a table style. D*MNED C3D STYLES!!!!!!!
What you could do is draft the record curve in proximity to the measured/drafted curve and then put it on a separate "no plot" layer. Add your tag and see if it works. It would be as fast if not faster to just explode and hand edit, that is unless you really want to keep the dynamic capabilities of the curve table in tact.
Hi Rob,
Yes, I am a surveyor in the Philippines. I was formerly an active member of Autodesk AutoCAD Civil 3D Discussion Group and an active member of the following groups:
1. Land Surveyors United Inc.
2. Leica Geosystems Surveyors Group (Facebook)
To my opinion, a surveyor can't simply ignore the BIM technology. It is the technology of today that I am very happy of in my daily work as a surveyor.
I guess, US and Philippine practices have some differences but only in legal terms. Due to this, a US plat drawing presentation is quite different compared to us. Though presentations differ, the underlying survey/mapping concept is exactly the same.
In view of this, I am quite confused with what you mean regarding measurement data that you wish to be included in your line/curve table in Civil 3D. If it pertains to raw measurement data, then API programming is one of the solutions. If only plat dimensions and other spatial information are what you need to be displayed in the table, then standard Civil 3D has it all.
Lastly, I always do my job in 3D and in grid/projected system. This means that elevation relative to geoid/ellipsoid always matters to me as it affects any map or plat that I produce.
Can you share some image to help me figure out what you really mean?
Thank you.
Arnel M. Domag
nth geograhics and geometrics
Davao City, Philippines
If it is not an actual curve object tagged in the drawing it is not going to be included in the curve table. I have never tried this but maybe you can modify the curve table layout to put several blank columns in the table and then label as "Record Radius" etc. then manually fill in those values without exploding the table.
It is common practice in the U.S. mainland (except Los Angeles County) to show measured data between two monuments as well as record data (sometimes multiple lines of record data).
For example, if the original Subdivision Plat from 1950 shows N 45°00' W 125.0' between set monuments and you go out there and measure N 45°15'31" W 125.08' then that would be drawn on the line (or in a table) typically like this:
N 45°15'31" W 125.08'
(N 45°00' W 125.0').
This is for purposes of comparison.
The OP wants to do this for curve data in a table which is tough to do.
Hi Dave!
The only real solution to that is through API programming.
The other partial solution is to draw two parcels: one with the original information and the other one is with your actual measurement dimension. As you create the data table, you need to pick corresponding tags in alternate fashion: 1st with the measured parcel and 2nd is with the original parcel and so on to emulate information stacking. Explode the table and perform CAD editing. Another partial solution is to create two independent tables then CAD-merge the two.
I don't know if this sounds helpful.
Thank you.
Arnel M. Domag
nth geograhics and geometrics
Davao City, Philippines
And the City of Riverside!
Thanks Everyone.
I second the alternating curve tagging approach. Your retracement and the record boundaries being two different sets of linework in the same drawing.
Kevin
