Pardon me while I rant...
I'm sure that the powers that be in the ivory towers at autodesk have what they consider to be perfectly valid reasons for the "enhancements" in the user interface that come along from time to time (I just moved from c3d 2014 to c3d 2015) but change just for change sake is ridiculous in the extreme. Layout tabs have always been comfortably nested at the bottom of the drawing area, above the command line, and the application status bar along the very bottom of the app window with the coordinate display and the various drafting toggle/setting buttons all the way over to the left. Over 15 years of drafting with this setup tends to develop a muscle memory so now when I want to toggle or change my osnaps my cursor goes to where that function should be and guess what, it's not there, now there are layout tabs in that location. So now I have to scan over to the right and look at the "new improved" application status bar for the osnap toggle and hunt and hunt and hunt for the osnap tool. Why all of the hunting? Because in their infinite wisdom they have not only moved the tool but changed it's icon.....GGrrrrrrrrrrrr. I realize that these are relatively minor changes in the grand scheme of things and that I will become accustomed to them in a rather short time but that doesn't stop it from chapping my butt.
Thanks for listening
Randy
I think that if you go to OPTIONS, Display tab, and click on the check box "Display Layout and Model tabs", you will find your happy place.
Thanks but I've got the layout tabs turned on it's just that they are not located where they used to be, they are now where the cursor coordinates and various snap and grid toggle buttons used to be. There is no way to change it I've been to the autocad web site and others have complained about the same thing and the autodesk rep that replied stated that there is and will be no way to change it...get over it.
I have seen a number of other programs that have done what appears to be the very same thing over the last few years. Change for the sake of change, no real improvement that I could find.
I have quietly wondered if that is how some programmers justify their existence. Look at what we did type thing and nobody asks what the actual improvement is.......
John, post: 333547, member: 791 wrote: I have seen a number of other programs that have done what appears to be the very same thing over the last few years. Change for the sake of change, no real improvement that I could find.
I have quietly wondered if that is how some programmers justify their existence. Look at what we did type thing and nobody asks what the actual improvement is.......
probably quite true. vendors need to sell new copies and sell subscriptions.
If it LOOKS the same you think you paid for nothing (true). If it looks different then you pat yourself on the back and think "I am on the forefront of technology" when in reality you are not.
At one point the highlight of my resume was that I could work with many versions of Windows and Autocad. It made me a shoe-in during my interview for my last employment.
I bought my own copy of LDD 2004 (or is it 2003?) and refuse to update it. It works and I don't need to fight yet another meaningless learning curve.
anybody remember the Edsel? 99% the same as the Ford/Lincoln/Mercury under the hood, just a couple logos and styling changes on the sheet metal...
sorry for the rant Randy, I do feel you pain
I have a copy of LDD 2004 at home (I think I could still put my hands on it), but have not been able to make it run on newer windows.
John, post: 333559, member: 791 wrote: I have a copy of LDD 2004 at home (I think I could still put my hands on it), but have not been able to make it run on newer windows.
It will work. Install as administrator and check out compatibility mode.
Fully appreciate the rant! Ribbons can kiss my @ss.
side-track:
Doug Crawford, post: 333570, member: 9 wrote: It will work. Install as administrator and check out compatibility mode.
What do you guys do about service packs/ updates? I have an older version (LDD2i) and have never installed on 64-bit machines.
As I understand it, these products aren't supported anymore and you can't get the hiccups cured with the updates that came as the original release matured. In other words, no patches or service packs are available for these older products.
back-chain, post: 333585, member: 7900 wrote: Fully appreciate the rant! Ribbons can kiss my @ss.
I bit the bullet on the ribbon issue when I moved to civil 3d and that wasn't as bad as I thought at first, and I'm certain that I will get used to this change but while I can see the reason for transitioning to ribbons I see absolutely no purpose in reshuffeling the location of tools or changing icons that people have been using for years.
I'm still on 2010 c3d and, yes, I have adapted to the ribbon. I drive with the command line a lot; the ribbon just lets me find setting tweaks a little quicker. Still don't understand why it was necessary (didn't MS and Adesk both jump to ribbons around the same time).
As 2010 has a harder time dealing with the newer version back-saves, I am thinking more and more of bricscad based on reading I've done here.
Try the interface changes as a "keeping you on your toes" test. Never trust anyone older than 12, right?
Peter Ehlert, post: 333556, member: 60 wrote: my own copy of LDD 2004 (or is it 2003?) and refuse to update it. It works
:good:
John, post: 333559, member: 791 wrote: I have a copy of LDD 2004 at home (I think I could still put my hands on it), but have not been able to make it run on newer windows.
What version of "newer windows"? I use Windows 7, no issues.
...but I have not tried using acad after the last couple massive W7 updates.
I have Win 7 at home. It's been a few years since I messed with it, forget if it was an install error or run error.
John, post: 333611, member: 791 wrote: I have Win 7 at home. It's been a few years since I messed with it, forget if it was an install error or run error.
I have had to Call MS every time I reinstall W7 (a 2 or 3 hour process). My copy is Retail, and not locked into any hardware, but it of course can only be used on one machine at a time.
Gotta say It, Windows 8 is the biggest crock of **** ever invented. It wont take Acad 2010 or C3D, even in compatible mode, at least not properly, just enough to think it works.I feel your pain gentlemen, just an extension of all the changes we have seen since the chain and tension gauge. And lets face it, if it did what was needed, reinventing the wheel tends to make it square.
