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(@peter-ehlert)
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Yesterday I made a crossing from Mexico to the US at Tecate California.
The line was moving slow so I took some snapshots:

This is a genuine border monument...

the fence relationship

the general area... those are Mexican troops making a very polite last check before we cross into the US.

The border fence got moved, by the US (DHS). The US has apparently relinquished use of a couple feet. (the old fence went directly thru the many monuments).
This has been an ongoing effort for the last several years.

So, my thought is: Is the international border moving with the fence?;-)

PS: I intended to put this in "education" or "humor" but forgot...
Please do not make it political

 
Posted : March 25, 2012 8:54 am
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No but we should put some Civil Code 1008 signs next to those concrete posts, "Right to pass subject to control and permission of owner. Civil Code Section 1008."

 
Posted : March 25, 2012 9:02 am
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PPS: see all of my snaps of my drive if you are not totally bored yet:
http://i325.photobucket.com/albums/k368/sdibaja/3-24-12%20going%20to%20Az

 
Posted : March 25, 2012 9:04 am
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I remember surveying along the border south of Yuma in 1959. We had to cross onto the Mexican side of the fence to get to the border monuments. In those days it was no big deal to cross back and forth.

Jerry

 
Posted : March 25, 2012 3:11 pm
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Isn't there a 60' strip between the two borders, sort of no mans land. Anyone have access to the BLM plats along the border? Or is my memory fuzzy again.

 
Posted : March 25, 2012 3:40 pm
(@peter-ehlert)
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The most Westerly monument... you can see the rust stain of the original chain link fence that used to go up and over the top...

And more of that same area area taken a few months ago

http://s325.photobucket.com/albums/k368/sdibaja/1-30-2011/a%20Monument%20in%20The%20Wall%20La%20Playas%20Tia%20Juana/

 
Posted : March 25, 2012 4:14 pm
(@peter-ehlert)
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Not that I know of Bruce... but effectively there is a separate nation. Their licence plates actually say "Department of Homeland Security", No US, just DHS.

There is a new second meandering fence, a couple hundred feet in places, North of TJ.

 
Posted : March 25, 2012 4:18 pm
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Fun photo trip peter! Not to make this political, but I think that international borders are pointless...

Costa Rica to Nicaragua involves stepping through a hole in a chain link fence.

 
Posted : March 26, 2012 3:53 am
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Sign and monument on the Costa Rica / Nicaragua border.

 
Posted : March 26, 2012 5:51 am
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pondering International Borders>Ruel

I think we must have crossed at different borders? I was keeping an eye out for some sort of monument but never saw one.

 
Posted : March 26, 2012 6:01 am
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60 ft. strip

Bruce, there is a sixty foot strip reserved along much of the border. Land patented prior to the act reserving the strip go right up to the border.

Jerry

 
Posted : March 26, 2012 12:39 pm
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Mexico-US border... San Diego-Tijuana
USA on the left, looking East. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tijuana
the meandering second fence is quite clear, this photo is a year or two old.
the large structure is a sewer plant, the outfall of the concrete lined Tijuana River is treated before it enters the estuary... a huge problem.

 
Posted : March 30, 2012 7:50 pm
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The US took some of Border Fields State Park by eminent domain to build their new fence.

The descriptions were written by a GIS technician and they were bad, very bad, terrible. It seems to me they referred to AP maps.

We wrote them a letter, "If you are going to take some of our Park at least write a decent description so we know what you took."

 
Posted : March 31, 2012 6:31 am
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A little over ten years ago I was offered a position with the International Boundary Commission; but my wife had no interest in relocating to Houlton, Maine.

 
Posted : March 31, 2012 7:16 am
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Is Border Field Park still accessible? I was under the impression it had been closed off years ago.
It used to be a very nice place... I often took my lunch there in the late 90's.
Open air and solitude just a few miles from the city center, a rare thing in San Diego.

 
Posted : March 31, 2012 8:15 am
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> A little over ten years ago I was offered a position with the International Boundary Commission; but my wife had no interest in relocating to Houlton, Maine.

That sounds great! Too bad the southern border is not considered the same respect.

 
Posted : March 31, 2012 8:19 am
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This one is on the Canadian border at Lynden, Washington. The "border fence" in this area, where it exists at all, is usually 3 or 4 strands of barbed wire on t-posts.

 
Posted : March 31, 2012 8:29 am