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Johnson5144
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I see that Leica announced a new GNSS receiver, the GS16 earlier this week. It appears to be the same form factor of the GS14 with a new GNSS board. One of the interesting features they mention is that it is "self learning", which is a feature of their TS16 as well. It doesn't get into a lot of detail what self learning means for GNSS...has anyone here received any information from a dealer on this feature?

 
Posted : May 5, 2016 6:07 am
arturs
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I'm very excited about the new receiver, it seems like the best solution - small, light and powerful! As far as i understand it the self learning part is the RTKplus concept and it basically means more fixed positions under obstructions, better noise and multipath filtering, better tracking. I might be wrong though therefore i hope additional info will be available soon about this feature.

 
Posted : May 5, 2016 7:52 am
Eric Kara
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There isn't a ton of information on the Antenna at this time. I believe it will be fully released at HXGN in Anaheim in June.
Some info and typical corny videos on GS16 can be seen here: http://leica-geosystems.com/products/gnss-systems/smart-antennas/leica-viva-gs16 .

I haven't been told anything on how or what Self learning is. But if i were to guess i think it would work just like the TS16 were it will ignore or block poor SV's under stressed conditions. Total guess though. From Leica "Simply put, RTKplus is like RTK but better. RTKplus intelligently adapts to changing conditions by selecting the optimal signals to deliver the most accurate positions. Work more efficiently and in more challenging environments than you‰Ûªve
ever worked in before"

I'm just as excited to see what's in Captivate 2.X!

Edit:
info from the brochure

RTKplus
555 channels for more signals, faster acquisition and improved sensitivity
Intelligent management of multi-frequency, multi-constellation signals
Intelligent selection to automatically reject reflected or noisy signals

SMARTCHECK
Unique RTK technology provides continuous
checks to guarantee correct results
Initialisation within seconds
Complete reliability

SMARTLINK
Achieve centimetre accurate positioning worldwide -
perfect when working in remote areas around
the globe
No RTK base station or RTK network required,
correction data is continuously transmitted by
satellite delivering global coverage
Bridging RTK outages for uninterrupted centimetre
positioning

Time for initialisation Typically 4 s
Real-time kinematic
(Compliant to ISO17123-8 standard)
Single baseline - Hz 8 mm + 1 ppm / V 15 mm + 1 ppm
Network RTK - Hz 8 mm + 0.5 ppm / V 15 mm + 0.5 ppm

Post processing Static (phase) with long observations - Hz 3 mm + 0.1 ppm / V 3.5 mm + 0.4 ppm
Static and rapid static (phase) - Hz 3 mm + 0.5 ppm / V 5 mm + 0.5 ppm

 
Posted : May 6, 2016 2:26 pm
arturs
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gschrock, post: 370952, member: 556 wrote: I'm itching to try the Smartlink service. It appears to leverage some aspect of the Veripos global PPP service which has been around for while for maritime and glad to see it will be available for surveying (Hexagon bought them). A lot like the RTX/xFill it should be great in remote places where there is no cell or network and you do not have to to set up a base. Am wondering how long the convergence time is, but if the trends in real-time PPP are any indication that should only be minutes.
I hope they have one at HxGN we can try out....

gschrock, can you share an insight about the SmartLink/RTX services, how well do they work, how open and unobstructed does the South direction has to be, is the surveying process significantly slower when compared to traditional base-rover or CORS-rover solutions? I live more on the North side of the Europe and am thinking is it worth to try this service out at all or not.

Eric, i also have much expectations from Captivate v2.0! 🙂

 
Posted : May 9, 2016 9:34 am
Eric Kara
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Just spent a some time with it. It's a big deal.

From someone that I trust from Leica "this is as big as a deal as GLONASS was"

Edits for fixing image

 
Posted : May 19, 2016 10:56 am

arturs
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Nice! Did you try it outside? Was there anything noticable in the performance?

 
Posted : May 23, 2016 8:01 am
Eric Kara
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I did. There is a noticeable difference. Also some really nice changes in Captivate especially if you have a MS60.

With SmartLink it is capable of getting 2cm accuracy without a base station...

 
Posted : May 23, 2016 11:32 am
nate-the-surveyor
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2cm, no base? Awesome!

 
Posted : May 23, 2016 11:40 am
squowse
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Eric Kara, post: 373525, member: 1598 wrote: I did. There is a noticeable difference. Also some really nice changes in Captivate especially if you have a MS60.

With SmartLink it is capable of getting 2cm accuracy without a base station...

That's a totally unqualified statement. There is a big difference between "capable of" and "gives" but it won't stop some customers unreservedly believing it and repeating it. You're not even saying whether that's horizontal or vertical, whether that's a single or double sigma figure, time to fix, regional coverage etc; etc;

 
Posted : May 23, 2016 12:16 pm
Eric Kara
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Totally agree, because it's not fully released yet, i was using a beta firmware. This is a leap forward for Leica, but i cant promise you a "15%" improvement or that it will make you a perfect cup of coffee (I wish). I only had a few days with the antenna and wont get to see again till Jun 13th.

But the datasheet is out, so i guess i can quote that The Datasheet is quoting 3cm 2d. My results were better, but Leica has always been super conservative.

SmartLink([hl]worldwide correction service) [/hl]- Remote precise point positioning [hl](3 cm 2D)[/hl]
Initial convergence to full accuracy 20 - 40 min,
Re-convergence < 1 min
SmartLink fill [hl](worldwide correction service)[/hl] - Bridging of RTK outages up to[hl] 10 min (3 cm 2D)1"[/hl]

Edit - SmartLink fill is a service that will give you corrections if you lose connection from your base due to radio/network or someone stealing your base for 10 minutes.

SmartLink is a service that you can utilize worldwide. After 20 minutes your antenna will "re-converge" and will hold a fix "3 cm 2D". If you lose lock after the initial 20 minutes it will "re-converge" in less than 1 minute to fix.

 
Posted : May 23, 2016 12:43 pm

plumb-bill
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In other words, xFill...er Omnistar...

 
Posted : May 23, 2016 4:37 pm
arturs
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Not exactly. xFill is more like the SmartLink service that Leica had before the new antenna and changes in the SmartLink naming, they had it about two years now, and now it's called "SmartLink fill". The new service ("SmartLink") and the one that Eric is talking about is more like the RTX service from Trimble, and this is new for Leica.

 
Posted : May 24, 2016 12:13 am
Deepaksantoshi
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Hello - I am wondering if someone has an answer - I did a survey using my GS16 and CS20 controller. When I am trying to download the date - it is showing points in Lat/long instead of coords. How do I convert to coords - any short answers please.

?ÿ

Deepal

 
Posted : August 28, 2020 9:59 pm
christ-lambrecht
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@deepaksantoshi

export E,N,El via stylesheet?

 
Posted : August 31, 2020 11:09 am
flyin-solo
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@deepaksantoshi

when you're in the main screen, with the job folders, click the job, choose "view job properties".?ÿ there will be a series of tabs at the top, one of which says "coordinate system".?ÿ in there you will be able to choose your specified datum... so long as you have it loaded in your controller.?ÿ if you don't have any coordinate systems or geoids loaded, it will default to lat and long (you can also just choose lat and long if you wish).

i don't know where you are or where you'd get your coordinate systems from, i always just have them updated by the dealer when i take equipment in for it's regular calibration.?ÿ?ÿ

but that's where it is: job folder>view job properties>coordinate system.

 
Posted : August 31, 2020 6:53 pm

flyin-solo
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Above, but with pictures.

step 1: view and edit job properties.

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step 2: coordinate system tab at top.

IMG 7941

step 3: choose your coordinates. note the tabs at the bottom.

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step 4 (if needed): edit your coordinate system (geoid variables, etc).

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Posted : August 31, 2020 8:17 pm