Need information about surveying

Take a look at the Wolf and Ghilani Elementary Surveying textbook available for free download at: http://sfshare.se/fbdwx65qkthk

Knowing your general location (U.S. State, Country and/or Province), as well as the type of survey, would help us give you better guidance. Requirements are very different and require different educational backgrounds by location and what a specific survey requires. As an example surveys to establish existing and create new property lines require knowledge of local survey history, property law, land use or zoning regulations.

However, topographic surveys to support engineering and architectural design may require less legal background. Surveys to control construction would likely be based on prior boundary and topographic surveys of the site and may require even less legal knowledge. Some locations require a professional license for all types of surveys others are less restrictive.

For self-study the U.S. Army manuals are good. See http://www.publications.usace.army.mil/Portals/76/Publications/EngineerManuals/EM_1110-1-1005.pdf

As otherwise noted, there are many types and purposes possible.

The entire premise of your post, causes me some indigestion. It's not that your question was bad, or that I wish to insult you in any manner. It's the ASSUMPTIONS contained in your request. For me, that's the rub. Nothing is as it seems.

It's like reading the TDS Ranger data collector manual. "Then you simply...."

That's where it falls apart.

There is a HUGE history of little known knowledge, in the sphere of surveying. Kind of like, you ASSUME that we have a nice little world, on the edge of a pretty lawn, and this is surveying. No. Our world is very convoluted. And, the oddities are outnumbering the normalacies. There are some 5000 rules to surveying, and 10,000 exceptions to each one! Like trying to learn Engrish, (Sp) when your first language has been ____ for the last 50 yrs!

Once you jump in the mosh pit, with the surveyors, (if you retain your engineering hat) you may feel like jumping out, for a more sane approach to life!

I said all that to say, that I don't know how to reduce the complexity of my world. I'd have to sit down, and look at your specific situation, and write an individual recipe book, for EACH survey I do. Then, EXPLAIN all that to you, in a few paragraphs! That's asking alot!

Now, the surveyors who believe in the SIMPLICITY of surveying... they are not really surveyors, but impostors. And, we have some of those here too.

Please, do not be offended by the tone of my post, but read between the lines, get my meaning, and maybe have a sit down, with a surveyor, and his laptop, for lunch.

I for one, ENJOY having my client tag along as I work. Although, I recommend that they do something MORE PROFITABLE, I never discourage it.

Please, go and spend a day with a PLS, who knows what he is doing. You will then understand. It's like the non surveyor says, "That's just the ocean, what could be complex about that?" Then, you take a trip scuba diving, and say WOW! there is a HUGE world down there! And, we reply: "we only went 20' deep, next time we go to 40'!" Pretty soon, you see that you can take a lifetime, and never get it all.

Welcome to our world, and this forum. Enjoy and learn. It's a ride. I am so far behind right now, that I am digging through a bunch of new surveying equipment, and feeling like a grasshopper, in a wind storm!

All Aboard!

Nate

Dear GeeOddMike
Thank you so much for your kind reply and I definitely will read them.

Dear Dallas Morlan
Thanks a lot for your help.
Actually, I live in the UK and more specific in Birmingham.
I Have just started this career as it was the only chance I had to get back to my job. So I didn't want to miss this chance I am aware of what a endless world I got ahead!
I hope I can fit it and I am so happy that I found this website.

>...Adding this point that I know how to set up a total station and resection it with two known points...

Be careful little fingers what you do...

Dear Nate

I do appreciate any words that you said and I am not offended at all! 🙂 Actually, I had a laugh because I knew what you were talking about. But as you might know it better than me, I never ever can be like you in this field as I got many to go!
I would say my life has been quite complicated and now this is the only chance that I can get and do it to rescue myself.
I know exactly what a difficult way I got, but i want to do my best.
I think at the moment my situation is quite weird and the only thing that I can do is getting to know more about surveying and improve my knowledge. in the next two weeks I will find out what will happen!
As I said before I am really glad that I could find this website and I hope I can learn more and more from you.
in the end, I should say teaching others when you know is a gift from God however I don't believe in any god any more! 🙂 But it is still a gift if you can transfer your knowledge and experience. I might be an amature in this field but in my field I was doing well although destiny didn't let me keep ding it! I can say I have changed a few lives by teaching others and I am happy about that even if I am not where that I should be!
Thanks a lot for your help
Hope to talk with you more my friend 🙂

:)))) haha you made my day mate! I will, no worries 🙂

>...how back in the golden age they had to pound wooden hubs into cobblestone streets with thier bare fists etc etc... then buy them a pint and move on to the next 😉 surveyor

Fancy bespoke wooded hubs, purchased at "The Hubbary" on Jermyn Street no doubt (Official purveyors of hubs to the Royal Family since 1872).

Meanwhile here in the colonies we had to cut down trees on site and whittle the hubs ourselves.

> Meanwhile here in the colonies we had to cut down trees on site and whittle the hubs ourselves.

I still do that; from time to time....

My favorite is a "Baldy"; that's where you find a nice, long, straight stick. Clean off all the little branches; sharpen the big end and shove it in the ground. Tie a piece of flagging up high and you will see it for a long ways. Cheaper than lath, too.B-)

:snarky:
Cheers,
Dougie

Fleming - Need information about surveying

> Yes, I'd like to order some of those custom hubs from said purveyors(they must be cool as they use the words "artisan" and "signature" in the ads).

I pick mine up in person so I can lunch @51.5074107,-0.140228,3a,90y,43.55h,92.76t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sN3tE8RXopFV6XyFEISV8lA!2e0!6m1!1e1?hl=en">around the corner at my club

Hamid,

I'm based in the UK, best to contact me via my website www.ajb-settingout.co.uk might be able to assist if I know a little bit more about what your requiring and hopefully point you in the right direction.

Thanks a lot for your offer. I was just thinking if I could find any one of these helpful guys here in the UK as it seems most of them live in the USA. I am blessed now. 🙂
I will keep in touch with you.

RADAR

> My favorite is a "Baldy"; that's where you find a nice, long, straight stick. Clean off all the little branches; sharpen the big end and shove it in the ground. Tie a piece of flagging up high and you will see it for a long ways.

We always called that a "Joe" since it was like having an extra guy on the crew when you were laying out traverse. Used in a sentence: "The party chief said to set Joe on this point then come ahead."

Here is a link to a free Ebook on Engineering Surveying.
It may answer a few of your questions.
Engineering Surveying - Schofield and Break - UK publication 2007

Barry Graham
Melbourne, Australia

Thank you so much Barry.I will download it.
I do appreciate your help.

Hamid

> Hamid,
>
> I'm based in the UK, best to contact me via my website www.ajb-settingout.co.uk might be able to assist if I know a little bit more about what your requiring and hopefully point you in the right direction.

Excellent kind sir.