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Don Wilson's "Boundary Retracement: Processes and Procedures"? Looks like it came out back in February. I came across it on google when I was searching for a phrase (subsequent deeds are irrelevant) from a Maryland court case whose whole name I can never seem to remember and one of the hits came back to this title on google books.

https://www.amazon.com/Boundary-Retracement-Procedures-Donald-Wilson/dp/1498727107

(If you click the picture of the book cover you can read the preface)

I thought that a couple of his last books "Interpreting Land Records" and "Forensic Procedures for Boundary and Title Investigation" were really excellent, so I just bought this one sight unseen.


 
Posted : June 10, 2017 4:46 am
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No, but (detour warning) just yesterday my pastor told me about this short story by Leo Tolstoy:

How much land does a man need?

http://www.online-literature.com/tolstoy/2738/

I thought that if anyone here has read/heard this story, it would certainly be you. Have you started your new career chapter yet?


 
Posted : June 10, 2017 8:07 am
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I just bought it.


 
Posted : June 10, 2017 8:08 am
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Tommy Young, post: 431957, member: 703 wrote: I just bought it.

There were four copies available at amazon when I bought it this morning...now there is one. Maybe Wendell should get commission.


 
Posted : June 10, 2017 8:36 am
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Brad Ott, post: 431956, member: 197 wrote: No, but (detour warning) just yesterday my pastor told me about this short story by Leo Tolstoy:

How much land does a man need?

http://www.online-literature.com/tolstoy/2738/

I thought that if anyone here has read/heard this story, it would certainly be you. Have you started your new career chapter yet?

Started on Monday...looked at more deeds and plats this week then I did in the previous six months at my old gig.

I haven't read that story, but Tolstoy's religious works are interesting.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Kingdom_of_God_Is_Within_You


 
Posted : June 10, 2017 8:40 am

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I had bought the "Forensic" book years ago. I thought it was well put together but intendedas a college text. There was a lot of breathing room in some areas.
I bought it and a few other books because I was on the Wiley mailing list at the time and they offered a very large discount.
I see there is s new publisher for this book.
Looks like another college text.


 
Posted : June 10, 2017 8:43 am
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James Fleming, post: 431960, member: 136 wrote: There were four copies available at amazon when I bought it this morning...now there is one. Maybe Wendell should get commission.

I didn't buy a new one. I got a used one in great condition (supposedly) for $38 less.


 
Posted : June 10, 2017 3:32 pm
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Brad Ott, post: 431956, member: 197 wrote: No, but (detour warning) just yesterday my pastor told me about this short story by Leo Tolstoy:

How much land does a man need?

http://www.online-literature.com/tolstoy/2738/

I thought that if anyone here has read/heard this story, it would certainly be you. Have you started your new career chapter yet?

Great story. Must be a favorite of the cloth. I also first heard it from the pulpit.


 
Posted : June 10, 2017 4:07 pm
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I bought mine a few weeks ago. I've only had an opportunity to scan through it a little, but it looks very promising. His last 2 survey books (Forensic Procedures, Interpreting Land Records) were excellent, IMO. If his latest is much like these, I really hope that it begins displacing what has been the standard text for many college boundary surveying courses.

As to being written as a text book, they pretty much all are, and IMO, should be. The purpose is to convey knowledge and to be a reference resource to professional work. That's just what a college/university level text book should be. If the suggestion is that if a book is designed to be a text book, it's only really useful to college students and not substantial enough to be a go to reference for practicing professionals, I have to strongly disagree. The number of practicing professionals who don't know more than a small percentage of the principles discussed in most college texts and applicable to actual practice is disturbingly high.

My college text books for surveying (and a few for several other subjects) are on my book shelves either in my office at home or at my employer's office. I continually add to my library with new text books, or books on subjects of professional interest, and the vast majority of those are or were used as text books at some college or university, either now or at some time in the past. They get referred to quite regularly and it's been over 20 years since I was in college.


 
Posted : June 13, 2017 10:26 am
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Evan

eapls2708, post: 432328, member: 589 wrote: I bought mine a few weeks ago. I've only had an opportunity to scan through it a little, but it looks very promising. His last 2 survey books (Forensic Procedures, Interpreting Land Records) were excellent, IMO. If his latest is much like these, I really hope that it begins displacing what has been the standard text for many college boundary surveying courses.

As to being written as a text book, they pretty much all are, and IMO, should be. The purpose is to convey knowledge and to be a reference resource to professional work. That's just what a college/university level text book should be. If the suggestion is that if a book is designed to be a text book, it's only really useful to college students and not substantial enough to be a go to reference for practicing professionals, I have to strongly disagree. The number of practicing professionals who don't know more than a small percentage of the principles discussed in most college texts and applicable to actual practice is disturbingly high.

My college text books for surveying (and a few for several other subjects) are on my book shelves either in my office at home or at my employer's office. I continually add to my library with new text books, or books on subjects of professional interest, and the vast majority of those are or were used as text books at some college or university, either now or at some time in the past. They get referred to quite regularly and it's been over 20 years since I was in college.

Evan,
I wasn't disparaging the content or academic merits of the text.
My comment of being a college text was in reference to that industry in the publishing world.
High cost price with limited supply.
For a time before my survey life, I was a book "buyer" for a college textbook wholesale outfit. Quite an interesting job. They gave me a Ford 350 van and rolls of cash each week and I would drop in on a college campus and buy from profs, instructors etc. Bought new comp copies mostly but used if it was in the buyers data base book.
Publishers revise editions to keep the price high rendering the current edition to become of no value. It's an odd game but I it works for them and their competitors.

Just looked at two books online that we were requested to have for our kid whose entering 9th grade. Both are college texts. Found one pretty cheap on Amazon but the other is only available for RENTAL. There are some copies available from Indy sellers but of very high cost.
Once again, I just want to stress that about college textbook business.
Do you really believe a textbook should cost $150'for a PB or much more for a HB. Digital editions prices fluctuates.


 
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I don't know that much about the economics of publishing and setting prices based on the number expected to sell, but I'm pretty sure that the numbers would work out that a limited run would cost a lot more than a NYT #1 seller on the fiction list. Even so, I agree that most text books seem to be over priced and that many come out with new editions seemingly for the purpose of making the previous editions appear to be obsolete, adding little material that is actually new. The pair of books that I see as the competitor to this one seem to be just such to me. I generally get every other or every 3rd edition, hoping that there will be enough added since the last one I got to make the cost worth it.

Wilson was and possibly still is involved in the updated editions of what are/were known as the (Curtis) Brown books, but I see his solo books as having diverged from the direction that the "Brown" books have been taking in more recent editions. I also haven't seen where he has issued a new edition of his solo books every other year as has been done with the "Brown" books.

I found Forensic Procedures and Interpreting Land Records to be better written, both in terms of organization and in terms of logic supported by law and related sciences. I feel that Wilson is trying to educate boundary surveyors to be better all around investigators with the ability to employ logical reasoning where the "Brown" books, and/or the way they are taught from, tend to encourage the reader/student to remember and apply a series of general rules. I don't get the impression that Wilson is making a pile of cash from these or that he is in it for the money.


 
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Tommy Young, post: 431989, member: 703 wrote: I didn't buy a new one. I got a used one in great condition (supposedly) for $38 less.

My book arrived today and it looks like a brand new one.


 
Posted : June 16, 2017 8:41 pm