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Surely some of them are. Some appear to be little more than diploma mills for those who are willing to pay the fee. How would the typical potential student ever figure out whether or not they are getting something worthwhile?

I have a client at the moment who claims to have a bachelors degree from an on-line university based in Florida that I have discovered is now unaccredited and essentially out of business. He claims to have a masters degree from an on-line university in West Virginia that actually has a campus and some visible students, but his declared degree is not listed in their information bragging about their various programs and this is one they would be bragging about. He claims to have a PhD from an on-line university in California that actually has a campus and some visible students, but, again, his declared degree is not listed as something they offer. I'll bet he has some fancy-looking diplomas framed and hanging on his office wall.

 
Posted : 06/06/2017 5:48 pm
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I think any degree that is not accredited by some sort of body is almost if not totally useful. I spent alot of money and time doing a diploma at a well respected university over a decade ago but when it came to getting some sort of recognition for it from the professional body I was told it was worth no more than about 10 CPD hours. I was annoyed to say the least.

 
Posted : 06/06/2017 11:12 pm
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If one make right political "pay offs" to state officials like AGs and assistant AGs, they are deemed legal.
Like in FL.

 
Posted : 07/06/2017 2:55 am
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Holy Cow, post: 431405, member: 50 wrote: Surely some of them are. Some appear to be little more than diploma mills for those who are willing to pay the fee. How would the typical potential student ever figure out whether or not they are getting something worthwhile?

I have a client at the moment who claims to have a bachelors degree from an on-line university based in Florida that I have discovered is now unaccredited and essentially out of business. He claims to have a masters degree from an on-line university in West Virginia that actually has a campus and some visible students, but his declared degree is not listed in their information bragging about their various programs and this is one they would be bragging about. He claims to have a PhD from an on-line university in California that actually has a campus and some visible students, but, again, his declared degree is not listed as something they offer. I'll bet he has some fancy-looking diplomas framed and hanging on his office wall.

Surely some bricks and mortar universities are legitimate as well:)

 
Posted : 07/06/2017 4:17 am
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I was taking classes form Grand Canyon, they're legit. However they also have a brick and mortar campus.

I think that the University of Phoenix is definitely legit; they're not cheap either. I went with GCU because they have a good veteran's program.

 
Posted : 07/06/2017 4:22 am
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The US Department of Education has a web page on accreditation, with links to lists of accredited schools. Of course, for some purposes a specific accreditation agency is necessary, like ABET. There are, of course, bogus accreditation agencies just as there are bogus on-line schools. The US DOE screens out the ones that are clearly bogus. I couldn't say how good the accreditation agencies that just barely passed the US DOE's process are.

 
Posted : 07/06/2017 4:28 am
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They're not on line yet, but our local Geomatics program (Nicholls Sate University, aka Harvard on the Bayou) is ABET accredited, and I've seen up close and personal the hoops they've jumped through to acquire and maintain that accreditation. I was just speaking with the department head yesterday, they have to renew later this year.

 
Posted : 07/06/2017 4:34 am
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Lee D, post: 431444, member: 7971 wrote: They're not on line yet, but our local Geomatics program (Nicholls Sate University, aka Harvard on the Bayou) is ABET accredited, and I've seen up close and personal the hoops they've jumped through to acquire and maintain that accreditation. I was just speaking with the department head yesterday, they have to renew later this year.

"Harvard on the Bayou" LOL
Son did a field trip to Nichols this spring.
Visited the culinary program that Cajun chef John Folse created and the visual art department where his home room husband teacher is a professor.
Also he did some voluntary work painting and spring cleaning at the Chauvin folk art site owned by Nicholl State.

Also, I know someone from here who played soccer at GCU on scholarship.
They had a pretty respectable program.
He's was and still is a damn good player too.

 
Posted : 07/06/2017 8:43 am
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Robert Hill, post: 431499, member: 378 wrote: "Harvard on the Bayou" LOL
Son did a field trip to Nichols this spring.
Visited the culinary program that Cajun chef John Folse created and the visual art department where his home room husband teacher is a professor.
Also he did some voluntary work painting and spring cleaning at the Chauvin folk art site owned by Nicholl State.

I've had a long professional relationship with Dr. Balaji that has grown into a great friendship over the years. My sons visited Nicholls before they got out of the Army, one of them was already committed to going and will be a Senior next year. My wife and I both fell in love with the place; the family atmosphere and sense of community are phenomenal.

I haven't been inside the new Culinary Arts building but supposedly it's state of the art. That program has a great reputation.

 
Posted : 07/06/2017 11:56 am
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Lee D, post: 431440, member: 7971 wrote: I was taking classes form Grand Canyon, they're legit. However they also have a brick and mortar campus.

I think that the University of Phoenix is definitely legit; they're not cheap either. I went with GCU because they have a good veteran's program.

Laid out the new baseball stadium building corners at GCU yesterday...

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Posted : 07/06/2017 12:08 pm
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If you suspect the person doesn't even have a particular degree, you can call the university to confirm, although they may pass you off to a pay-for-degree-verification site.

 
Posted : 07/06/2017 4:00 pm
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Holy Cow, post: 431405, member: 50 wrote: . I'll bet he has some fancy-looking diplomas framed and hanging on his office wall.

What are ya sayin'?
My Doctor of Divinity, Surveying & Mapping degree is bogus???

Dan B. Robison, DDSM:clink:

 
Posted : 07/06/2017 6:41 pm
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When HR people sort through potential employees who have filed applications do they take into account such stuff. Someone with a diploma from USC, for example, might get a better review than someone from Frostbite Falls University and Discotheque with a nearly identical diploma.

 
Posted : 08/06/2017 5:50 pm
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This looks pretty legit to me.

 
Posted : 09/06/2017 10:09 am
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Jobo and I are alumni of this fine educational institution....who else will claim ICS?

 
Posted : 09/06/2017 12:42 pm
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Dan B. Robison, post: 431899, member: 34 wrote:
Jobo and I are alumni of this fine educational institution....who else will claim ICS?

I've known a couple of surveyors who did ICS back when...
They were good Surveyors.
Plus the fact that they made the effort to get educated while life went around about them with work and family is commendable.

That being said...I thought you attended Hogwarts.

 
Posted : 09/06/2017 1:53 pm