I am looking for an ABET accredited land surveying boundary law course. It needs to be a distance education class. I need a 4 semester hour course.
Does anyone have any recomendations? I am just starting to look, and wanted to ask here for any personal experiences.
I will check back in the morning.
Thanks in advance.
Jimmy
There is a Geomatics Certificate distance learning program offered by the University of Florida. I've taken most of the courses.
Here's the link, hope this helps!
http://www.sfrc.ufl.edu/gemcertificate/
Nick
I don't really know anything about this program, but Great Basin College in Nevada has recently developed this program. NV has gone to a 4 yr degree requirement, so that may be the catalyst. Apparently, it is also available on-line for those that wish that.
Im assuming since you mention ABET, this course is needed to complete some state/board required class and that class must be from an abet accredited school.
Here is the ABET school search.
http://main.abet.org/aps/Accreditedprogramsearch.aspx
Surveying falls under three categories to search through. Once you know the schools you can take a course from then, follow up at those schools to see if they offer distance ed for surveying courses.
Good luck. This could be a difficult challenge.
Cincinnati State's Advanced Surveying program is a 3rd year following their AAS. It leads into a 4 yr degree partnership with N. Kentucky Univ.
This program is designed for Distance Learning, State specific to OH, IN, KY.
CET 7993 Surveying Laws and Ethics
"A course on state-specific surveying laws from Ohio, Kentucky, and Indiana. Topics include: key historic cases relating to boundary locations and ethics specific to the surveying profession."
> I am looking for an ABET accredited land surveying boundary law course. It needs to be a distance education class. I need a 4 semester hour course.
>
> Does anyone have any recomendations? I am just starting to look, and wanted to ask here for any personal experiences.
>
> I will check back in the morning.
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Jimmy
Check with New Mexico State University( http://et.nmsu.edu/) at Las Cruces, NM. And Texas A&M - Corpus Christi.
I know NMSU has distance learning classes in surveying and TAMU-CC ( http://gisc.tamucc.edu/index.php?n=Cert.GeomaticsCertificate) has an excellent survey degree program. Also the University of Wyoming has a distance learning program ( http://www.uwyo.edu/)
Check with GreatBasin College: Bachelor of Applied Science in Land Surveying/Geomatics
http://www2.gbcnv.edu/programs/BAS-LS.html
Metro State College of Denver used to offer quite a few courses via internet.
I believe Metro State lost its accreditation when its phd professor retired a while back.
Thanks to everyone for the replies. I am researching various classes.
The ABET accreditation is required because the classes are distance education.
Thanks,
Jimmy
Metro State College Of Denver, Colorado
No longer has a BS program, however their online learning courses are ABET accredited.
http://www.mscd.edu/surdd/courses/index.shtml
However Boundary Law II is only 3 credits.
Paul in PA
Metro State College Of Denver, Colorado
> No longer has a BS program, however their online learning courses are ABET accredited.
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>> http://www.mscd.edu/surdd/courses/index.shtml
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> However Boundary Law II is only 3 credits.
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> Paul in PA
Paul, Please correct me if I'm wrong but it's my understanding that Metro lost their ABET for surveying. ABET doesn't list them anymore and Metro has a letter explaining this on their website.:-(
It's been my understanding that (at least in many years past), ABET has frowned upon accreditation for programs that are distance delivery.:-( I would be more than happy to be misinformed on that though.
Metro State College Of Denver, Colorado
> No longer has a BS program, however their online learning courses are ABET accredited.
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>> http://www.mscd.edu/surdd/courses/index.shtml
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> However Boundary Law II is only 3 credits.
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> Paul in PA
If it's not part of a Degree program, how can they be ABET accredited.
Ralph
Metro State College Of Denver, Colorado
From what I have seen, ABET is for degree programs only.
There does not seem to be any surveying distance-learning degrees.
Metro State College Of Denver, Colorado
If one thinks about it, what sense does it make to have a solely distance-learning degree program in a career path where hands-on field experience is critical?
Distance learning...
I agree. Distance learning survey programs are a challenge. I am enrolled in the distance learning program at Great Basin College. The way they worked this out is:
for the 2 fundamental surveying classes with labs, the student has to find a mentor who agrees to work with the student and allows the student to use their equipment to complete the field assignments. I don't know how well that works out because I completed those classes at Southern Polytechnic State University when I lived in the Atlanta area. But it sounds good as long as everyone does what they are supposed to. Lectures are delivered via streaming video. Some live, some not. The instructors have always answered questions quickly via email and will usually make themselves accessible via telephone as well. This semester, I completed a class on the Public Lands Survey System, Steve Parrish instructor. We met every Tuesday evening via live streaming video (sort of like Skype) and then he recorded the lecture and it was available as streaming video. Steve is an awesome instructor and made himself available anytime I had questions. He even spent over an hour on the telephone with me one Saturday to discuss our term project. It can be done; the people involved have to want to make it happen. Until there are more programs available, what other options does a person have? The closest program to me is at least a 3 hour drive. How can I work full time and go to school driving that far?
Metro State College Online Per The ABET Website
http://www.abet.org/online-programs/
Now maybe ABET failed to update their site, but it currently states that the Metro
From the ABET website:
http://www.abet.org/online-programs/
Metro State Online courses are still ABET certified. The ABET accredited online course list is very short. Per ABET, accreditation is based on content and results, not on presentation.
Metro State is no longer accepting new students as BS candidates, but the same courses previously ABET approved have not changed. One would have to contact Metro regarding single courses. It appears they are accepting non degree students because they are also offering these credit courses as continuing education.
From the Metro State website:
"The Surveying and Mapping Program"
"Distance Delivery Courses for Surveyors"
"Beginning with the Fall 2010 semester, the Bachelor of Science in Surveying and Mapping will no longer be offered for new students."
"The Surveying courses have been moved to the department of Earth and Atmospheric Sciences, as an area of interest under the Geographic Information Systems Area of Concentration, Land Use Major . These courses may also be taken for Surveying professional development."
I believe that was the intent of the original request in this thread.
Paul in PA
Metro State College Online Per The ABET Website
How do you take an ABET accredited course that isn't worth any credit????
Non Degree Student Does Not Equal Non Credit.
A typical non degree student only wants a few courses. For instance an engineer with a BS CE wants enough credits, 10 in PA, to add to his BS CE to qualify to sit for the PA PLS. Or an Indiana PLS with a BS Geomatics Engineering from Purdue having only 31 credits wanting to sit for the New Jersey PLS, 45 credits required. Or any PLS prefering to take a credit course rather than obtain PDHs.
Many colleges offer Open Enrollment for only a few courses. Once you reach the limit of credits you must either make a formal application or go elsewhere. This applies to many Grad School courses also. For instance your job transfers you to California for a year and you know you will not be around to finish your degree program there, yet you do not want to miss getting a few credits toward your ultimate goal.
Paul in PA
Non Degree Student Does Not Equal Non Credit.
I still don't see how he is going to get credit for the course. On another note, I believe David Gibson form U.F. was bought in to revamp that stuff. I took several course from Dr. Stoughton at Metro, there was nothing Mickey Mouse about them. Hopefully Gene Kooper will chime in, I believe he's part of the Metro team.
wanting to sit for the New Jersey PLS, 45 credits required.
I believe you need a 4 year degree, I thought you attended NJIT?
LPL, I haven't interacted with you since 07' or so, it seems some things don't change.
Ralph
Attended NJIT, Did Not Graduate
I have 42 surveying credits. One surveying course and 2 other non surveying courses required for the degree. The 30 credits at that time was way more than enough to take the PA PLS with a BS CE degree back in 2001. Before completing the NJIT program I got cancer, missed a year of work and never caught up financially.
Per my previous example an Indiana PLS may have a BS Geomatics Engineering degree from Purdue which includes 31 credits. If he wants to sit for the New Jersey PLS, he needs 45 credits but does not need another surveying degree. There are several BS surveying programs that include only 30 to 36 credits. Other than NJ with a statute requiring 45 credits there may be no other state with that minimum.
Paul in PA
