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(@nate-the-surveyor)
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Matt, we all need a business plan. 

Personally, I'd druther buy it at one price. As you add features, pay the upgrade. I have enough monthly worries. 

Nate

 
Posted : April 9, 2023 5:51 am
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This is a pretty amazing piece of software.  Our technicians do most of the deed plots, but it isn't anyone's favorite part of the job.  The time saved just highlighting the calls, or the time checking our own descriptions for closure would pay for a seat.

But I agree with Nate, I resist the subscription model of software.  Looking at my desktop, I don't have any.

Steve Chatelle

 
Posted : April 10, 2023 3:38 am
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Hi Nate,

I've had the request for an option to purchase the program outright from others too so I will add this option and also revise the other pricing options I had set once I am satisfied that everyone who has tried Deed Reader Pro is happy with the performance and features.

This weekend I made the Call Table interactive so now when you click on a cell in the Call Table it will highlight and select the corresponding text in the Deed Text.  This feature will be available in the next release.  My goal is to make it as easy as possible to correct any misread characters and mistakes in the deed.

 
Posted : April 10, 2023 1:50 pm
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Matt,

I've got enough going on, just keeping my ink jet printers going...

I don't have star net... But id like it if I had it. Or a version of it that worked together with your pgm.

So I could easily tell it not to change any dimension by more than 29.5 seconds, or .049'.

You know, to close deeds written to the tenth, or minute.

Wouldn't it be neat, if it also forced the closure, as needed, so it doesn't make multiple cords, for one point?

Just tools to streamline it.

Since you are in this deep, what about a fancy pgm to write descriptions, that also keeps up with its own rounding errors? 30 courses, rounded to a tenth, and a minute, can disclose (mis close) by 0.50' easily. Smell check got me. (Spell) check)

N

 
Posted : April 10, 2023 7:36 pm
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Nate, when you say deeds "written to the tenth" do you mean tenth of a foot or tenth of a degree.  Currently I do not support decimal degrees as I have never seen deeds use decimal degrees in my area but if this occurs in other areas then I can add support for it.  I sometimes see fractional degrees here with fractions of 1/4 and 1/3 fractions of degrees here and support this.

I have no plans to force deeds to close as the intention here is to be able to plot the deeds so you have search coordinates when you go out in the field to look for monuments.  Then based on field evidence you should decide where to set missing monuments.

 
Posted : April 11, 2023 5:37 am
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I downloaded it to try it out.   Your example 1 deed gave an error converting image to text. 

Tried to put a simple text file description I just wrote, and I can't tell if it's even working. 

 

 I watched the video but must be missing a step somewhere.   

 
Posted : April 11, 2023 5:48 am
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@andy-j this could be because Tesseract, the OCR (optical character recognition) engine didn't get installed or wasn't installed in the default directory (C:Program FilesTesseract-OCR). If it was installed you should have seen this. 

image

If it Tesseract was not found in the default you will see a message to select the first time you try to process a deed.

image

I just noticed that if you do not select it the first time then this window does not appear again.  I will fix that.  Do you know if Tesseract was installed?  Please check C:Program FilesTesseract-OCR for it.

 
Posted : April 11, 2023 6:09 am
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@matt8200   I checked, it didn't download.   When I did the download, my computer thought the file was suspect.  I had to change the extension to .exe    not sure if that affected the download.

 
Posted : April 11, 2023 6:27 am
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@andy-j I emailed you.

 
Posted : April 11, 2023 6:40 am
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This tool is pretty amazing! I've only ever lurked on Surveyor Connect and felt compelled to make an account just to say thanks for taking the time to make this!

If you haven't already put a post on the r/Surveying subreddit, you might want to consider it. Not to take away from Surveyor Connect, theres just a pretty large user base over there as well. I've mentioned Deed Reader Pro in a few comments over there to help get the word out!

I've been using the trial for the last week or so and I've already started using it in day to day tasks going through title commitments etc and it's been a huge boost to efficiency! I have run across a number of bugs, nothing that couldn't be worked around, and doesn't diminish the potential of it, but I would be happy to share them with you if you'd like. What's the best way to relay that to you?

 
Posted : April 15, 2023 8:38 am
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@traversekitsch thanks for the kind words and suggestion to post on reddit. I will definitely do this. Please email me any bugs you find and I will fix them: support@deedreaderpro.com

 
Posted : April 16, 2023 10:30 am
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good to see some got it working well.  I tried about three times loading and unloading but never got it to work with the sample data.   

 
Posted : April 17, 2023 4:23 am
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Hi Andy,

I believe you still need to delete the config.ini found in:

C:Users%username%AppDataLocalDeed Reader Pro

This file points to the path where tesseract it is installed and if tesseract does not get installed properly during installation then it will not work. I have improved the fix for this in the next version.  Uninstalling the program does not delete the config.ini file so this is why that does not work. I can also help you get it working through a Teamviewer session if you want. 

You could also edit the config.ini file to correct the path for tesseract:

Config
 
Posted : April 17, 2023 4:44 am
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I have not had a chance to try yet but seems those who have see some benefits to having this. I was following this a little and now back from a week long classes started reading and would like to try it out if possible. Also had a thought if you could make it mobile compatible as a lot of field crews prefer to take a picture of the hard copy these days. I don’t know maybe paper is to heavy or something lol. But a IPhone or android version might be of some use as well. The cursive thing mentioned would be worth its weight in gold. I am seeing a lot of younger folks who cannot read cursive. Did they stop teaching this for a while or something.  Looks like you have a pretty great little product coming along. 

 
Posted : April 17, 2023 6:14 pm
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@olemanriver please try it out and let me know what you think. It is free to try right now and I am extending the demo period indefinitely for everyone right now. It will work with images of deeds taken from mobile phones. The images of the deeds just need to be transferred to your PC and then they can be processed.  Unless you also do your CAD work on your phone, it would not not make a lot of sense to try and create a mobile version.

 
Posted : April 18, 2023 3:48 am
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@matt8200 i will do. Have sent a request to my IT department if that doesn’t get the ok i will break out my old personal laptop and do it on that.

 
Posted : April 18, 2023 5:20 am
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Just wanted to give this a bump. In just a few short weeks, Deed Reader Pro has become a key part of my workflow on preparing new parcels. A tip for those starting, instead of trying to load in complete PDF's and allowing DRP to find the description, just take a snippet of the description, and import that as a image file. I use Windows Snipping Tool. It recognizes the text in seconds, and only looks at what I tell it.

In my experience, 40% of deeds get recognized with zero additional input from me. Another 40% take minimal input, changing some commas to periods and other minor edits. The remaining still take a bit of effort, but they were generally flawed or lousy to begin with. Looking for errors is much easier with a essentially a live plot view, helping me to easily recognize which call is the most problematic.

If you haven't given this tool a try, you should. It's changing the way I estimate for new jobs, the way I prepare for field survey, even the way I QA/QC. I've been dropping my own legals in to make sure everything is as it should.

Matt is also highly responsive via email, and his indicated to me a several new features on the way that are going to make this even more friendly and robust.

If you're struggling to start with, press on through the learning curve and I think you'll be rewarded.

 
Posted : May 16, 2023 10:57 am
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@tfdoubleyou okay, thanks.  But I am confused, which version link do I download if I have not downloaded any version yet?

https://www.deedreaderpro.com/download

 
 
Posted : May 16, 2023 12:06 pm
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@brad-ott you need to download "Deed Reader Pro Version 1.2".  "Deed Reader Pro Version 1.2 Update" is if have already installed another version and it skips installing the optical character recognition engine again.

 
Posted : May 16, 2023 12:23 pm
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Bumping this, we've got someone in our office testing this out today.

 
Posted : June 14, 2023 8:16 am
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