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(Insert numerous foul words that would lead to an invitation to join TDD and Kent)

A minimum of 16 teams in a playoff are required for this to have any meaning whatsoever. $18 million if you make the four team cut versus $2-3 million if you don't is outrageous. Bribery had to be an art form over the past week or so.

Can you tell I'm not at all happy with how things turned out? It's very easy to assemble a great winning record when you play a bunch of weak sister schools. Neither of the schools who made the final cut and have State on the end of their name have any business being there. And Oregon needs to play some more real teams instead of teams who were powerhouses forty years ago.

 
Posted : December 8, 2014 6:00 am
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> And Oregon needs to play some more real teams instead of teams who were powerhouses forty years ago.

I think it smells fouls too. Something about "rotten in Denmark".

I would like to think that the players best interests were at heart. But with millions of dollars floating around on the table those chances are pretty slim.

It's always all about the money.

OU game tickets in Norman costs more than Packer tickets in Green Bay. The stadium is a mile south of the house and I have to pay forty bucks on "pay per view" to even see a home game. It all sucks.

 
Posted : December 8, 2014 6:10 am
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I'm somewhat shocked by TCU winning their final game by 50 points, then dropping 3 places in the final poll. Or Baylor beating a top 15 team by double digits, and getting jumped in the final poll.

Makes no sense.

But as for "State" schools..... I'm a Gator, so I'm no FSU fan, but they are the defending champs and on a 27-0 win streak. Everyone else has a loss. They should be #1, IMO. And that is coming from someone who hopes Oregon stomps a hole in them.

And OSU are 12-1 and just beat a top 20 team 59-0 with their 3rd string QB ... that's pretty hard to ignore.

Sadly, there are 6 teams that should be there, and four spots open. Some team, and some conference, was going to get screwed.

 
Posted : December 8, 2014 6:13 am
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Need some cheese?

 
Posted : December 8, 2014 6:17 am
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BTW

Oregon's uniforms remind me of something else I've seen on tv..

 
Posted : December 8, 2014 6:26 am
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> Need some cheese?

That's what we (Va Tech Fans) tell UVa fans every year after the game on Thanksgiving weekend.

 
Posted : December 8, 2014 6:52 am
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> A minimum of 16 teams in a playoff are required for this to have any meaning whatsoever.

Well...16 teams and an incredibly loose definition of the word "meaning".

"If then a practical end must be assigned to a University course, I say it is that of training good members of society... It is the education which gives a man a clear, conscious view of their own opinions and judgments, a truth in developing them, an eloquence in expressing them, and a force in urging them. It teaches him to see things as they are, to go right to the point, to disentangle a skein of thought to detect what is sophistical and to discard what is irrelevant."
? John Henry Newman, The Idea of a University

 
Posted : December 8, 2014 6:53 am
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BTW

Put some spikes on those gloves and helmets and that would be reminiscent of the old Rollerball movie circa mid-70s.

 
Posted : December 8, 2014 7:35 am
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Baylor and TCU Had The Weakest Schedules

4 team slots in the playoffs and 5 major conferences, someone had to be left outside.

Let us simply place them by record, 13-0, 12-1, 12-1, 12-1, 11-1 & 11-1. That does not seem unfair. But thankfully the SEC helped to put itself out of the picture, imagine the cries had there been another 11-1 SEC West team.

I doubt a 16 team playoff will ever happen, unless the big schools go back to an 11 game season, plus an 8 team setup is going to be more of a crapshoot than a real playoff.

Imagine when the Power 5 all go to 16 teams each, they will each want a champion playoff not a single game. The possibility exists to extend the college season past the Super Bowl.

There was a finality to the old system, one could plan a vacation around a bowl game. More and more it will be less and less opportunity for the actual college fans and students can just plain forget it.

Of course we could exempt college football players from classes or exams and even shield them all from sexual misconduct laws.

Paul in PA

 
Posted : December 8, 2014 7:55 am
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Baylor and TCU Had The Weakest Schedules

"Of course we could exempt college football players from classes or exams..."

Like North Carolina does?

 
Posted : December 8, 2014 8:21 am
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Baylor and TCU Had The Weakest Schedules

If people think that they can't correctly get the top 4, then choosing the top 8 or 16would be a mammoth challenge. It would be best to leave it up to the computers. 😉 Of course by definition, I think the eye test factor is subjective.
Kudos to the TCU coach who displayed great class in his statements to the media, he is to be commended. I think that he was taken aback by their 3rd rank last week.
Be that as it may…On Thanksgiving, most of the college football fans at dinner did pick these 4 teams. It was agreed that it would be a 'political' decision based on the selection process. Human nature.
I believe that TCU and Baylor should be evenly ranked. Beating a team in OT in kicking contest is not an indicator of who is the better team. But as Americans, we love winners and losers even though it may be factored by a coin toss.
If I was Czar and thinking outside the box, I would have TCU- Baylor play for the right to play Ohio State for the 4th spot. This would give the seeding more weight which is the reason for seeding in the first place.
But the selection process got 2 marquis match-ups.
Alabama against OSU with Meyer and Saban going for legendary glory so to speak.
FSU-Oregon: last year’s Heisman winner against this year’s Heisman winner.

 
Posted : December 8, 2014 9:06 am
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The NCAA football polls are pretty much a popularity contest. When Nebraska was still popular during the Tom Osborne era, we would still be ranked in the Top 10 with two losses. I believe we even could have once won the National Title with two losses because the higher teams lost, but we also lost a close one that year.

Now a team that is not consistently ranked in the Top 10 year after year will have a lot of difficulty making the Top 4 even with a one loss season. This makes it really hard on the teams that have that once in decade team or those that lost early in the season. The top teams just rotate after losses and the outsiders don't get in.

 
Posted : December 8, 2014 9:09 am
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Baylor and TCU Had The Weakest Schedules

I think the committee thought they would get some help from the 4 through 6 group over the weekend. It didn't work out that way and they had a tough job. In a perfect world we would have a less subjective system. More games is the only way to do it. I am OK being left to guess and letting the kids keep their bodies together a little longer. The more demands (games) we put on college athletes the fewer will remain healthy enough to compete or enjoy life. I say save the beating of 16 games for the handful that go pro... My .02

 
Posted : December 8, 2014 11:52 am
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I think everything turned out ok.;-)
However, I thought they would match TOSU and Oregon, keeping the B1G and PAC 10 in the Rose Bowl. That way Alabama could be the team to knock out FSU. They still could get that opportunity.:-)

 
Posted : December 8, 2014 1:40 pm
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After waiting years for a better solution for the College Crown, it just took a big step backwards. Espn was stumping for OSU for 2 weeks and I think that it was money driven AND presto magico it happened.

Can't tell me that a team with a larger traveling fan base had nothing to do with it.

How in the hell can a team (smaller school, smaller traveling fan base) drop from 3 to 6 after winning their final game b y 50?

Yepper, its called money.

Kirk Herbstreet and the rest of the ESPN "yes men" can kiss my behind.

Thanks for letting me get that off the chest.

Randy

 
Posted : December 8, 2014 2:08 pm
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I'll Agree To That Rose Bowl Option

Of course Alabama and FSU should be in the Orange Bowl.

Somehow they thought there was significance in seeding rank over tradition.

Paul in PA

 
Posted : December 8, 2014 2:08 pm
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The selection ranking and Espn power rankings had the same 4 and in the same order.
The coaches poll had the same 4 but had FSU at 2 not 3.

The AP media poll had Baylor in and TOSU out.

I think they got it right. Big 10 messed up
by not declaring a champion. If Baylor - TCU had tied then both might have had a chance to dance. Being unbeaten.

 
Posted : December 8, 2014 3:36 pm
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I'll Agree To That Rose Bowl Option

You mean Sugar

 
Posted : December 8, 2014 3:37 pm
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I'll Agree To That Rose Bowl Option

Basketball has 65 and baseball 64 teams in the playoffs and every year there is an argument.

4,8 or 16 teams in a football playoff system won't settle anything.

 
Posted : December 9, 2014 9:45 am
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>And Oregon needs to play some more real teams instead of teams who were powerhouses forty years ago.

OK, they squeaked by FSU in the final 60 minutes of the Rose Bowl. Maybe that counts for something?

 
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