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(@just-a-surveyor)
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I have no clue how long it will take but I have begun the process to get Italian citizenship by an ancestry process going through my great-grandparents. Beginning to fill out the forms and it should turn out to be a very aggravating process.?ÿ

 
Posted : April 4, 2018 1:51 pm
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It's part of my 70's light rock collection here ..

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Posted : April 4, 2018 2:56 pm
(@stlsurveyor)
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Hum...I think all the States I am licensed in require you to be a US Citizen.

As far as I know the US is extremely particular on dual citizenships - basically you have to have been born in foreign land from American citizen parents. For you to go Italian I would assume Uncle Sam will make you renounce your citizenship, which I think is forever in this life. Good luck I am sure that will take some time.?ÿ

 
Posted : April 4, 2018 3:24 pm
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It is my understanding that the U.S. recognizes dual citizenship but does not confer it herself.

For instance a client of mine is an America born in North Carolina to American born parents. But his grand parents.....like mine were from Italy and they never renounced their Italian citizenship. Now to be fair that is a kinda sketchy thing.

Anyway he as dual U.S. & Italian citizenship. There is a provision in Italian law that allows it and I thought what the hell. The least that can happen is I get tired of forms and say to hell with it.

 
Posted : April 4, 2018 4:07 pm
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dual citizenship is usually not an issue, depending on the country. But Italy? Check out the tax laws. Will you be taxed on all assets and income in Both countries?

renounce citizenship? It is all about money.?ÿ The IRS estimates your future possible taxes, for the rest of your life. Once you agree on that amount, and prepay it in advance, done. Kinda hard to do, unless you are super rich.

I am sure Italy has tax and citixenship treaties with the US, look it up.

 
Posted : April 4, 2018 4:10 pm
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"a person may have and exercise rights of nationality in two countries and be subject to the responsibilities of both. The mere fact he asserts the rights of one citizenship does not, without more, mean that he renounces the other"

Kawakita v. U.S., 343 U.S. 717 (1952).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_nationality_law#Dual_citizenship

 
Posted : April 4, 2018 5:06 pm
(@bill93)
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The worst that can happen is you get an Italian tax bill.

 
Posted : April 4, 2018 6:26 pm
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I'm constantly amazed by people who have it made that give their nuts a squeeze so they are always in pain.

 
Posted : April 4, 2018 9:46 pm
(@just-a-surveyor)
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I will not do it if I become subject to double taxation. And I have no interest at his point in renouncing U.S. citizenship. Now if this country is taken over by communists then all bets are off.

 
Posted : April 5, 2018 1:57 am
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I have a good friend who was born in Canada, eh?, and became a US citizen without giving up her Canadian citizenship.?ÿ She doesn't pay any additional taxes.

I have another friend who was born here, but obtained Irish citizenship because of his grandparents, while retaining his US citizenship.?ÿ He pays no additional taxes.

 
Posted : April 5, 2018 2:33 am
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A friend of mine (both he and his wife are Italian immigrants, they are not american citizens) has a son who was born in the US. The son has dual Italian and US citizenship. He has a graduate degree in nuclear engineering. He secured a job interview at Bettis Atomic Power Laboratory in Pittsburgh (a Navy research facility). When he got there, at the gate they asked if he was a US citizen. He answered yes. They asked him if he was a citizen of any other country, he told them yes, Italy. They refused entry and he never got the interview.?ÿ

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On the other side of the coin, my daughter graduated from college and went to Mexico right away for a teaching job. When she got there, she was told she needed a visa to work, so she hired a lawyer to help her get one. The lawyer asked a few questions, found out her mother is a mexican citizen (and also US), so she automatically was a mexican citizen, no visa needed.?ÿ

I wonder if I become a mexican citizen (by marriage), can I get some of this minority set-aside work??ÿ ??ÿ

 
Posted : April 5, 2018 2:37 am
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My wife was born in England to an American father and an English mother.?ÿ When (at the age of five) my wife and mother in law moved here, my mother in law was naturalized as a US citizen.?ÿ As the child of a serving member of the armed forces my wife was "automatically" a US citizen.?ÿ In about 1972 my wife, her mother and brother went to visit family in the UK.?ÿ When they got there my wife and her mother were told they could stay as long as they wanted but her brother (born in the US) could only "visit".?ÿ My wife has to keep her Passport current because no one here recognizes her Birth Certificate.?ÿ She was born in a hospital run by Nuns and the Birth Certificate is entirely hand written, not fill in the blanks, completely hand written.

Andy

 
Posted : April 5, 2018 5:13 am
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My mom was Brazilian, so I could claim Brazilian citizenship if I were to become a permanent resident there.?ÿ Once citizenship was formally acknowledged, I could then move out of the country if desired.?ÿ However, despite the current "interesting" political situation in the U.S., I have no plans to do any of that.

 
Posted : April 5, 2018 6:39 am
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Though I'm an American citizen, I was born in London. Everyone on my father's side is British. This has the distinct advantage in?ÿthat I can apply for a British passport with little fanfare. The real benefit to this is that it opens up all of the?ÿCommonwealth countries, Canada, Australia, New Zealand to relatively unrestricted travel and employment.?ÿMy ace up the sleeve in this age of political debauchery.

 
Posted : April 5, 2018 8:27 am
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The real benefit to this is that it opens up all of the?ÿCommonwealth countries, Canada, Australia, New Zealand to relatively unrestricted travel and employment.

Your options have deceased since Willixit.

My ace up the sleeve in this age of political debauchery.

I've been pricing beachfront ?ÿproperty in Uruguay for retirement...but don't let SWMBO know. ??ÿ

 
Posted : April 5, 2018 9:30 am
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You confuse Brexit with the commonwealth of the former British empire, on which the sun never sets. Never did have much of a yearning to be a member of the EUrotrash crowd, but the UK passport will get me 6 months visa free in New Zealand with far fewer hurdles were I to seek out employment.

Cheerio mate.?ÿ ??ÿ

 
Posted : April 5, 2018 9:53 am
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Posted by: Williwaw

You confuse Brexit with the commonwealth of the former British empire, on which the sun never sets. Never did have much of a yearning to be a member of the EUrotrash crowd, but the UK passport will get me 6 months visa free in New Zealand with far fewer hurdles were I to seek out employment.

Cheerio mate.?ÿ ??ÿ

My point, apparently not expressed well, was that prior to Brexit the UK passport would have given you access to the rest of the EU, visa free...even that last bastion of European civilization and culture, the Visegrad nations.

 
Posted : April 5, 2018 10:01 am
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Win some, lose some I guess. Must be my Neanderthal DNA when my preference for countries that speak my own language comes out, though I have to say, those?ÿCzech ladies are Zsa Zsa Gabor hot.

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Posted : April 5, 2018 10:16 am
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....though I have to say, those?ÿCzech ladies are Zsa Zsa Gabor hot.

My sister-in-law is from Prague....smartest thing my brother ever did was take advantage of the exchange rate and switch an American 50 for a Czech 30.?ÿ

 
Posted : April 5, 2018 10:30 am