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 BigE
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No, I'm not talking about pondering lint.
I was looking up something about an aircraft carrier the other day.
Amongst the various dates, one is called "reft".
I've never heard that before. Looking it up says it is past tense of reave meaning "plunder, rob".
What does that have to do with an aircraft carrier in the US Navy?

An example is in here:
CV-67 USS JFK

 
Posted : February 23, 2014 10:03 am
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Are you sure it isn't "Refit" (1984)?

 
Posted : February 23, 2014 10:10 am
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I'd guess it refers to a "refitting". Which means a moderate to major alteration.

She arrived in Norfolk on 28 March 1991. While at Norfolk the ship was .... refitted to handle the new F/A-18C/D Hornet.

 
Posted : February 23, 2014 10:11 am
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Dam small fonts!!!!
I've been wondering what the hell that meant for the last couple of days.
Boy, do I feel stupid!!!!

:'(

 
Posted : February 23, 2014 10:47 am
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Hell, E, I didn’t know what it was either.

“While at Norfolk the ship was .... refitted to handle the new F/A-18C/D Hornet.” (thanks Norman)

It should have read:

“While at Norfolk the ship was REBUILDED to handle the new F/A-18C/D Hornet.”

Like “When Bubber rebuilded his momma’s front end loader she was happy” 😉

Waiting for the 500 to restart…..B-)

 
Posted : February 23, 2014 11:58 am
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> Hell, E, I didn’t know what it was either.
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> “While at Norfolk the ship was .... refitted to handle the new F/A-18C/D Hornet.” (thanks Norman)
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> It should have read:
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> “While at Norfolk the ship was REBUILDED to handle the new F/A-18C/D Hornet.”
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> Like “When Bubber rebuilded his momma’s front end loader she was happy” 😉
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> Waiting for the 500 to restart…..B-)

Same here on that 500 deal!!!

Check out the Kitty Hawk or Nimitz and see how many times they got a re-fit. I think Nimitz even got some new reactors.

 
Posted : February 23, 2014 2:53 pm
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You sure it didn't say "remf", or is that strictly an Army term?? :-O

 
Posted : February 23, 2014 3:31 pm
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Another naval question

"On 14 September 1976, while conducting a nighttime underway replenishment 100 miles north of Scotland, destroyer USS Bordelon (DD-881) lost control and collided with Kennedy, resulting in such severe damage to the destroyer that she was removed from service in 1977."

How in the world do you "lose control" of a Detroyer?!!

 
Posted : February 24, 2014 9:52 am
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The destroyer Bordelon was being refueled by the carrier Kennedy, so they were already in close proximity. A sailor on the Bordelon writes about it here. He doesn't say why they collided.

 
Posted : February 24, 2014 1:26 pm
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Another naval question

Very interesting - thanks!

 
Posted : February 24, 2014 2:29 pm
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Another naval question

> How in the world do you "lose control" of a Detroyer?!!
I'm not a Navy man, but I think that it must be hard to appreciate just how much ocean it takes to turn and stop one of these things. Collisions happen frequently, as our friend Judson Coppock had the [msg=5441]misfortune to experience[/msg].

 
Posted : February 25, 2014 8:57 am
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Another naval question

I reached out to a retired naval acquaintence, who happened to be the Chief Engineer of a sister ship at the time of the incident. His explanation:

There's nothing deep, dark, sinister or secret about any of this. Navy ships at sea conduct underway replenishment operations (refueling - as in this case; rearming - bullets, bombs, rockets, etc.; resupplying - food, repair parts, stores, etc.) thousands of times each year, normally without incident. Each event involves a much higher degree of risk than normal underway steaming, because the "sending" and "receiving" ships are maneuvering at very close quarters (usually about 30-60 yards apart). As a result, each ship will have its best, most experienced hands assigned to key command and control stations during replenishment.

The "sending" ship (in this case, KENNEDY) is required to maintain a constant course and speed while the "receiving" ship (BORDELON) maneuvers to maintain station alongside while taking on whatever. In this event, BORDELON suffered a temporary loss of electrical power in the aft portion of the ship, affecting her steering gear. Before they could restore power, she careened off of KENNEDY's starboard side, her sponsons (overhangs - aircraft elevators) carrying away BORDELON's radar masts.

Any time there's an accident such as this, there is a Board of Inquiry convened to investigate all the pertinent facts in the case, to determine cause/affect, and culpability as applicable. In this case, BORDELON suffered a boiler casualty, losing steam pressure in the after ship's plant, causing the after turbo-generator to trip off-line. Hence the loss of electrical power. The engineers failed to shift the electrical load to the forward generator in time to prevent loss of power aft. By the time they had re-configured steam pressure throughout the ship, it was too late.

 
Posted : February 26, 2014 3:51 am
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Another naval question

Thank you! My dad got me interested in accident analysis. (although he preferred accounts of mountaineering and other wilderness misadventures)

 
Posted : February 26, 2014 12:49 pm