For the last couple of years I have been tripping over little piles of crap in MY woods left by another surveyor. This guy is in cahoots with a slash and burn developer that also finances the land. In my opinion they have NEVER been a proper development model. All the plats are "unrecorded" and none of the private roads (hog trails) are in any sort of dedicated easement. Which is how I get hooked into this mess.
One of my clients is a rural electric cooperative. We provide RW and consulting for the coop. Rather than dedicate any sort of formal easement or RW, the developer prefers the utility providers to run amuck inside the "development" and he dedicates the easements. Although it would be simpler to "plan" this sort of thing, it really doesn't matter to me how he does it...not my circus, not my monkeys. But it's up to me to prepare the easement documents as they twist and turn on their way to the last anchor.
These kinds of developers, to me, are like used car salesmen..only worse. I avoid them like the plague. But his surveyor is starting to get under my skin after a few years. The surveyor has been disciplined by our Board several times for the exact practices I'm bitchin' about. No corner references...no boundary work...drive a lath (no pin) in the quarter line fence that say "LOT 7" and leave it at that.
I've spoken with him several times. He's friendly enough on the phone. "He just hasn't gotten around" to doing a lot of things I ask him about...yadda yadda. He's blowing smoke and just carries on about his merry way. I've quit calling him.
I'm tired of being a nice guy. Apparently being constantly disciplined by the Board doesn't bother him. I'm ready to stick it to this guy in any way I can. I don't want to cause any physical harm to him or his equipment, but I want to do SOMETHING to screw him over big time. I've thought about moving his control points 33 feet one way or the other...not classy enough for me...Besides, he probably wouldn't notice. Anybody got any good ideas?
I'm serious. And for all the folks out there that want to admonish me and remind me of my professionalism; I get it...but I'm gonna do something to get this yahoo's attention. I just can't figure out what. Something between putting a rattlesnake in the cab of his unoccupied vehicle to chaining his truck's rear axle to a good sized oak tree. I need some ideas....
Uh, how about the old flaming paper sack of dog poop on his front porch?:excruciating:
He needs to be sued by someone whocan legitimately make a major claim. Some people need to be hit with a hammer, not a piece of wet spaghetti. Apparently, the BOR actions are wet spaghetti.
Holy Cow, post: 343738, member: 50 wrote: Uh, how about the old flaming paper sack of dog poop on his front porch?:excruciating:
I like it! I may even tie the bag up with flagging so he'll get the hint.
Drive over to his office and drive about 100 rebar in the office driveway, and leave a note saying this is all the corners you claim to get around to setting, please use this rebar to set those corners.
You know what I always wanted to somebody like that? Find their traverse nails or hubs or whatever they use and set as many as I can within about 0.2' of them. Make sure to do it to multiple points that are mates.
Take a few lath, and flag them, and pound them into the dirt, and pull them out.
Leave them on his front porch, with a note, asking that he come back and set more permanent monuments. Let him try to figure out which mess is mad at him. Be sure to tell him that you are organizing a posse group of lawyers and the State BOR to take away all he has, if you do not see permanent markers within a week. Make SURE some of the lath are old and dirty, weathered, and some are newer. With lot numbers, in the lower range.
Then, after a week, call him up (Borrow a cell phone) and ASK when you are going to get your corners set. After he asks your name, and which lot it is, THEN say, How many subdivisions do you stake like this? so, you do this regularly? Hmmm all of us in here can do a class action suit! Nevermind the lot corners..... and hang up!
Can of sardines, putty knife and access to his work vehicle's radiator (the honey comb part on the very front.)
No sardines? Limburger cheese works very well too.
cptdent, post: 343759, member: 527 wrote: Can of sardines, putty knife and access to his work vehicle's radiator (the honey comb part on the very front.)
No sardines? Limburger cheese works very well too.
I like the way you think...hmmmm...kinda like taking the old "potato up the tail pipe" routine to grand new (olfactory) horizons!
I have an acquaintance in the area that may be able to help. Although rather young, this Iraq War veteran is 6 foot 2 inches and 300 pounds of burger eatin' blubber. Not an ounce of muscle in his whole body. He is also a deputy county sheriff in the area. I think his name is really Haywood...but family and friends call him "Hay-boy". Hay-boy has a fine Southeastern Oklahoma drawl next to none.
Maybe for a few free meal coupons here in town at the all-you-can-eat Golden Corral, Hay-boy could "detain" our offender and explain, "they has bin uh RE-pawt of ought-matic weapons fi-ah in da area...Suh, if you might exit yo vehicle wit y'alls hans upinda ayuh, I need to such y'alls vehicle..."
And then proceed to have the hapless fellow strew every bit of junk in his survey truck out on the ground. Afterwards Deputy Haywood could apologize, tell the fella to have a nice day...and leave him with all his survey stuff out on the ground...
I might start workin' on this. B-)
send the rebar to him COD...
Maybe you could just make up some kind of bogus award for 'Okie Yahoo Surveyor of the Year'. Make it all official looking like it was from your, ummm ... 'Professional Society'. Maybe an invitation to a banquet in his honor? Let everybody in on the joke but him? Nothing quite like a little humiliation in front of his peers to get the message across. Somebody actually did something similar to this years back and I heard about it. Everyone invited was told they were going to be receiving a reward as 'Surveyor of the Year' as a gaff to get people to attend a banquet and from what I heard about it, it did not go over well.
I'd probably call him and tell him that if I see this one more time, I'm sending EVERYTHING to the board.
Kris Morgan, post: 343782, member: 29 wrote: I'd probably call him and tell him that if I see this one more time, I'm sending EVERYTHING to the board.
That's the problem, he has been disciplined by the board a few times, and doesn't care.
At some point, the punitive action gets into the pocket book.
He might think it was a conspiracy:
Ugh! What a scourge to us all.
I like the can of sardines and putty knife idea!
Scott Ellis, post: 343783, member: 7154 wrote: That's the problem, he has been disciplined by the board a few times, and doesn't care.
Must not levy big fines. Do they make him correct the work? That's obviously a board with a different attitude than the one being discussed in another thread, where they fined guys $1500 for plats not describing the cap on their rebar.
Nate The Surveyor, post: 343752, member: 291 wrote: Take a few lath, and flag them, and pound them into the dirt, and pull them out.
Leave them on his front porch, with a note, asking that he come back and set more permanent monuments. Let him try to figure out which mess is mad at him. Be sure to tell him that you are organizing apossegroup of lawyers and the State BOR to take away all he has, if you do not see permanent markers within a week. Make SURE some of the lath are old and dirty, weathered, and some are newer. With lot numbers, in the lower range.Then, after a week, call him up (Borrow a cell phone) and ASK when you are going to get your corners set. After he asks your name, and which lot it is, THEN say, How many subdivisions do you stake like this? so, you do this regularly? Hmmm all of us in here can do a class action suit! Nevermind the lot corners..... and hang up!
I like Nate's idea. Too many of the other suggestions are borderline to unprofessional or illegal or don't send a specific message. This one breaks no rules and is on the mark.
UNC,
Go to your local grocery store and buy some fresh shrimp (frozen with tails will do in a pinch) toss a few in the back of the truck and under the front seat if possible. In a day or two the smell will drive him mad.
Of course, IÛªve never done this, just read about it on the internet so I know itÛªs true and after the statute of limitations expires IÛªll go into further detail.
:whistle:
