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Wendell
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Facebook is down and has been for hours now.

No big loss. I do post there a lot, but I have to say that it's refreshing to not feel compelled to go there for whatever reason. Many family members and friends frequent Facebook, and it's nice to be able to keep in touch with them. And I'm a foodie, so I love to see and share food pics and recipes.

I'm also a member of several professional groups that help me stay on top of web trends, business issues, etc. There was a time when I was a member of way too many groups on Facebook, and it ended up cluttering my feed. Once I realized that I could hone my groups into stuff that helps my business, with only a few personal groups, I found wealth of information that Facebook could provide. So it's good and bad, but can be good if you do it right.

But again, no big loss. I get good information there, but since it is not available right now, it's kind of like those refreshing times when I forget to take my phone to the store or something. It's nice to be detached sometimes.

Anyway, hope you are all hanging in there and not twitching from the temporary loss of Facebook. 😉

 
Posted : October 4, 2021 9:48 am
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I saw speculation the DNS was screwed up.

 
Posted : October 4, 2021 9:59 am
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Posted : October 4, 2021 10:06 am
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Yeah, the DNS is messed up. OH well. Guess we'll just have to post here. 😀

 
Posted : October 4, 2021 10:06 am
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"Doug Madory, director of internet analysis for Kentik Inc, said it appears that the routes Facebook advertises online that tell the entire internet how to reach its properties are not available. Madory said it looks like the DNS routes that Facebook makes available to the networking world have been withdrawn.

The Domain Name System is an integral element of how traffic on the internet is routed. DNS translates an address like ƒ??facebook.comƒ? to an IP address like 123.45.67.890. If Facebookƒ??s DNS records have disappeared, no one could find it.

Facebook is going through a major crisis after whistleblower Frances Haugen, a former Facebook product manager, provided theThe Wall Street Journal?ÿwith internal documents that exposed the company's awareness of harms caused by its products and decisions. Haugen went public on?ÿ60 Minutes?ÿon Sunday."

https://www.stuff.co.nz/world/300422791/facebook-whatsapp-instagram-suffer-worldwide-outage

 
Posted : October 4, 2021 12:21 pm
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Some are saying it is due to BGP withdrawals, in other words the internet servers do not know a path to the Facebook servers, which happens at the xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx address level, not the facebook..com level where you ask the DNS server for the xxx value.

 
Posted : October 4, 2021 1:35 pm
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I haven't been on Facebook or Instagram in years, so I literally learned this via a news story I saw this am. I can't say I'm concerned.?ÿ

The timing is interesting though, my wife just shared this article with me yesterday:

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2021/11/facebook-authoritarian-hostile-foreign-power/620168/

 
Posted : October 4, 2021 1:52 pm
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A whistleblower in regards to Facebook's unethical practices came out officially on 60 Minutes last night, so I suspect it's all connected.

 
Posted : October 4, 2021 1:55 pm
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Obviously FB needs to ramp up to 5Hz.

 
Posted : October 4, 2021 1:59 pm
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@bill93?ÿ

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They have all kinds of non standard pseudonym addresses that are incredibly insipid and flood the net to avoid direct contact with filters.

I bought a firewalla a few years back because I heard about it via another IT pro I knew and wow, the things that happen when you click anything today is downright amazing and frightening.?ÿ Not sure why we need a flotilla of cookies and redirected pings for the rest of the universe, but yeah, the FANG have been selling out free data for a few decades now and then still charge us for the service.

The euro method will be the interesting future for sure.?ÿ

 
Posted : October 4, 2021 2:38 pm
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There y'all go:

FB
 
Posted : October 4, 2021 2:38 pm
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@richard-imrie?ÿ

That's like you, or I, getting kicked in the nuts...

 
Posted : October 4, 2021 2:59 pm
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Posted : October 4, 2021 5:37 pm
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I was out in no cell service woods all day, missed it.

 
Posted : October 5, 2021 4:58 am
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Never been there. Didn't miss a thing.

 
Posted : October 5, 2021 5:15 am
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@drew-r?ÿ The problem with that article is that the author asserts numerous times that Facebook is a threat to democracy, but offers no further explication of that idea. She seems to expect the reader to accept that view without offering any details. Yes, I know that the Russians got creative on Facebook in trying to manipulate American public opinion during a recent election cycle or two, but how is that different from books, movies, talk shows, and other forms of media crafted to influence us?

 
Posted : October 5, 2021 5:38 am
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Posted by: @peter-lothian

I think the biggest problem with FB is the degree and speed with which misinformation spreads is much greater than many other forms of media.

 
Posted : October 5, 2021 6:15 am
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Posted : October 5, 2021 7:28 am
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@peter-lothian I could see that. My experience tells me that Facebook is different in the way it presents information and gives voice to the loud and numerous over the informed. So I can say that I relate to some of what is said on an experiential level. I'm not sure that I need further explanation as to how FB threatens democracy; I can see it. Certainly, other forms of media have done this throughout the ages though, no doubt there. FB just ups the ante on it and can easily hide behind its own definition of freedom. I think the point I see is that FB and social media, in general, is different from books, tv, shows, etc. because of how widespread and fast it is.?ÿ

Then again, forums like this are the only "social media" I participate in so FB is a rather abstract talking point for me. I just found the article thought provoking.?ÿ

 
Posted : October 5, 2021 7:29 am
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