Truth always stands up to scrutiny.
What I'd reallt like, is to get my own rocket, and go get a load of lunar rocks.
I'm not worried about what is true...the truth stands on it's own. But, I still want that lunar rock shop!
N
I said I wouldn't, Buuuttttt........
Well, i grew up in about 1970 to 1980, and read all the newspapers i could about NASA at that time. I just never thought to question it. As an adult surveyor, i've learned to want the evidence.
Up in Hot Springs Village, there is an original GLO corner. It's some 300' from the local USE corner.
It's just the nature of a surveyor to snoop a bit.
Btw, anybody who's been to the Ozark mountains, knows the earth is not flat! 😉
Nate
R.J. Schneider, post: 451027, member: 409 wrote: There's a theory bandied about that he and Elvis are holed up in a Greenbriar, WV bunker, at the recommendation of a Rand corp. study, since after the Otober Missile Crisis.
I heard they were later joined by Jimi Hendrix
Nate The Surveyor, post: 451082, member: 291 wrote: ...Btw, anybody who's been to the Ozark mountains, knows the earth is not flat! 😉
Nate
I met one fellow from northern Arkansas that had moved here to the "flat land" with his wife. He quipped he'd probably never buy any land around here because it only had "one side"....
gschrock, post: 451077, member: 556 wrote: The whole UFO crash thing in the late 40's
Nobody publicized the fact that the first commercial quantities of titanium were produced just about the time of the Roswell incident.
It seems quite likely the USAF would be interested in trying a stronger light metal in aircraft, that first designs might not work out, and that such experiments and failures would be highly classified, that they would improvise a cover story, with various partial truths leaking out.
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I remember once reading Marilyn Vos Savant's column. A person wrote in about the amount of fence needed for a garden and how much area it would make. They were puzzled by why one layout gave a different area than another, giving several examples. Finally asking WHY that was, or was it just "the hocus pocus of mathematics"?
Mathematics isn't a belief system, nor is science. A failure to understand may be an excusable lack of ability but a refusal to understand is willful.
Now we can ask, "why".
paden cash, post: 450825, member: 20 wrote: I did spend a good deal of time on the moon back in the late sixties and early seventies.
Paden, Fer cripes sakes you were on the DARK SIDE OF THE MOON, you couldn't have seen any landings. 😉
My Grandfather worked as an experimental aircraft engineer (not Oregon). My mother followed him all over the southwest, meeting pilots and collecting souvenirs as they went.
The collection of renderings and documents she acquired would blow your mind. I can say with certainty it would be easier to flap your arms to the moon than to fake the evidence Ive seen. My one hope on the subject is that we begin our manned journey to mars before I check out.
watching it on tv when it aired was one of those memorable times I never forgot. I certainly would hope that one of my most lasting impressions wasn't some kind of mass lie. Just from the thought alone that no one could hide it for this long has me still believing.
Tom Adams, post: 451138, member: 7285 wrote: watching it on tv when it aired was one of those memorable times I never forgot. I certainly would hope that one of my most lasting impressions wasn't some kind of mass lie. Just from the thought alone that no one could hide it for this long has me still believing.
Me too, Tom. I was 16 and working at a Boy Scout camp (Laramie Peak Scout Camp northwest of Wheatland, WY) on a sunny Sunday. My buddies and I were huddled around an old transistor radio listening to the landing. Later we all cheered and jumped up and down when we heard Neil Armstrong say, "That's one small step for a man, one giant leap for mankind!" The following spring I learned the particulars in my high school physics class.
There are many conspiracy web sites that focus on various perceived or fabricated anomalies of the Moon landing, but science has debunked each and every one of them.
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Would you believe there's a Surveyor in Texas who Least Squares Adjusts every Shot he takes and they all have a precision of .01 foot?
Of course we went to the moon, and we need to pay attention to who is going back, the moon is a simple to use kinetic energy weapon's base.
It's sits in a highly strategic position with respect to the earth.
Just ask Wyoming Knott;)
As far as NASA faking things, that is a more credible contemporary question.
[SARCASM]How is it we can send a man to the moon, but can't propose a decent conspiracy theory as to why it didn't happen[/SARCASM]
MightyMoe, post: 451150, member: 700 wrote: Just ask Wyoming Knott
Wy not!
One of the best SF stories ever-Heinlein's The Moon is a Harsh Mistress.
I hope this clarifies things!!
N
Ya know, I am not heavily persuaded either way, or another way to say it, is my feelings won't hurt, either way. But, I have not read much about it. Hey, I ain't got time for that. I gots deers to ground.
N
It astounds me that as a group of professional scientific technicians trained to research, analyze and make determinations from the data available, can be so different in determinations that falls outside the realm of surveying.
It isn't just Nate. I have coligues who do exemplary survey research, but blatantly take the word of political talk shows as truth, without any questioning whatsoever.
As with all things in my life, I accept the moon landing as real, with the (unlikely) caveat that my opinion could change if indisputable evidence surfaces to the contrary.
This conversation is beyond ridiculous.
Chuck S, post: 451227, member: 698 wrote: This conversation is beyond ridiculous.
