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Our 6th grade son this week has took the PARCC tests at school. ELA for 3 days and math for the last two days.
He thinks that he did well. His grades are good and does well in math.
I don't want to go political here but the political hubbub about Common Core and PARCC testing is political hubbub,
So.... After the tests, the 6th grade students took a career guidance test to see their future prospects based on the results,

......this year he will be a teenager that has me in fear but the career placement test indicated that he should be an ARCHITECT or an ENGINEER :'(

 
Posted : March 20, 2015 8:14 pm
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That's all right - either way he'll make better money, have better professional support and gain more social acceptance than a surveyor 😉

 
Posted : March 20, 2015 8:19 pm
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> ......this year he will be a teenager that has me in fear but the career placement test indicated that he should be an ARCHITECT or an ENGINEER :'(

Simple enough. Your son is probably an INTJ or ENTJ personality type even though both you and your wife are probably (in my estimate) _NF_ types. It happens. Get over it. :>

 
Posted : March 20, 2015 8:23 pm
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Architect or engineer? That's like saying piano player or accountant...polar opposites.

 
Posted : March 20, 2015 8:33 pm
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I was hoping that maybe he could become an attorney. I could direct him to a nice multi-million dollar class action suit against a major cable company 😉

Wife has a degree in psychology and a few masters in associated counseling fields.

 
Posted : March 20, 2015 8:55 pm
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Cow, being an engineer yourself prevents you from seeing the situation.

 
Posted : March 20, 2015 8:57 pm
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> Architect or engineer? That's like saying piano player or accountant...polar opposites.

No, both architects and engineers (unless they live in the Midwest) are rational types, people whose understanding of the world is dominated by thinking rather than feeling.

 
Posted : March 20, 2015 8:58 pm
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> Wife has a degree in psychology and a few masters in associated counseling fields.

Yes, my money would be on both of you testing as _NF_ types. You have a distinctly literary flair and your wife is in a helping profession, both of which are diagnostic. Prove me wrong.
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Posted : March 20, 2015 9:01 pm
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Please do not EVER put architects and engineers in the same category again. Engineers design things that stand for centuries while architects design things that look pretty until they collapse for any one of a thousand reasons.

 
Posted : March 21, 2015 4:58 am
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And few of either, in my experience, understand the value in generating a solid CAD file.

 
Posted : March 21, 2015 5:38 am
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Breakfast with Engineers

> Please do not EVER put architects and engineers in the same category again. Engineers design things that stand for centuries while architects design things that look pretty until they collapse for any one of a thousand reasons.

A typical engineer will be happy to explain what a great breakfast drink Tang is since it is loaded with vitamin C and is very economical, whereas an architect will show you what a glass of the juice of oranges picked at the height of their ripeness and pressed by a lovely woman, served in a shapely glass could be. There's more to life than Tang and beef jerky.

 
Posted : March 21, 2015 6:45 am
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Breakfast with Engineers

Do you know how to tell if an engineer is an extrovert?

 
Posted : March 21, 2015 7:13 am
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Breakfast with Engineers

> There's more to life than Tang and beef jerky.....

And everything collapses, it's just a matter of time, it may as well look pretty...?

 
Posted : March 21, 2015 7:17 am
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Breakfast with Engineers

> Do you know how to tell if an engineer is an extrovert?

Sure, they're a manager.

 
Posted : March 21, 2015 7:30 am
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Breakfast with Engineers

No, they look at your shoes when they talk to you. 🙂

 
Posted : March 21, 2015 7:32 am
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Breakfast with Engineers

> No, they look at your shoes when they talk to you. 🙂

LOL!

 
Posted : March 21, 2015 7:33 am
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look on the bright side.... Christmas shopping in the future will be easier....
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Posted : March 21, 2015 7:35 am
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Breakfast with Engineers

He is looking at your shoes we he talks to you instead of his

 
Posted : March 21, 2015 7:43 am
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Breakfast with Engineers

:good:

 
Posted : March 21, 2015 7:46 am
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> ......this year he will be a teenager that has me in fear but the career placement test indicated that he should be an ARCHITECT or an ENGINEER :'(

I apologize for having a point of view that is never ever near the center of the ol' bell shaped curve...

BUT, I have a problem with ANY sort of predisposition when it comes to a child's future path. Maybe I'm being a bit too sensitive, but what kind of standardized test can tell any child they "should" gravitate toward any sort of livelihood?

I can understand positive feedback like "you're good with numbers and abstract reasoning. People with those talents have good results with higher education and the technical fields."

I just think that sort of thing could restrict or alter a child's self-worth or future ambitions.

"Hey teacher, leave that kid alone!"

 
Posted : March 21, 2015 9:00 am
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