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(@bruce-small)
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There was a meeting in our area yesterday about a proposed cell phone tower. We need better coverage, and the site is on a high point near two local roads. Makes sense to me and I spoke in favor of the new tower.

One activist went on about the danger of RF radiation, and on, and on, and then her cell phone rang and she had to scurry out of the meeting to take the call. I suspect the irony of the moment was lost on her.

I kid you not.

 
Posted : February 24, 2011 8:49 am
(@joe-m)
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She knows more about the dangers of RF radiation than scientists and the FCC, surely.

 
Posted : February 24, 2011 8:58 am
(@steve-gardner)
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It seems like at every Community Council meeting I go to, there's an application for a new cell tower. Neighbors bring up the radiation BS, but mostly it's the visual impact that they're concerned about so the cell company puts up one of those phony blue-green pine tree-looking towers that stick out like a sore thumb and to me are a worse eye-sore than a metal tower that you don't think twice about when you see them.

Same thing with new phone cabinets where the property owners give an easement in their yard for the cabinet but they demand that it be disguised as a rock so they end up with this big blob of grey fiberglass in their yard instead of a regular metal box.

 
Posted : February 24, 2011 9:03 am
(@jim-frame)
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> so the cell company puts up one of those phony blue-green pine tree-looking towers

I like the tree towers, and will take them over the bare towers anytime. Some of them are remarkably hard to pick out from among the surrounding real trees. When I'm on a road trip with my family, we compete to see who can be the first to positively ID them.

 
Posted : February 24, 2011 9:38 am
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How they hide them in Hole in the Wall, way up in Ventana Canyon, where the homes start at $$$$$$$. Look closely and you can see the access hatch near the bottom.

 
Posted : February 24, 2011 10:02 am
(@steve-gardner)
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Jim

To each his own. Driving up I-80 to Reno there's a bunch of them and it's not much of a contest to spot them.

 
Posted : February 24, 2011 10:05 am
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> How they hide them in Hole in the Wall, way up in Ventana Canyon, where the homes start at $$$$$$$. Look closely and you can see the access hatch near the bottom.

Now that is very deceiving. Looks like a real saguaro!! 🙂

Ventana Canyon...beautiful. :sun:

I sure miss it down there... :-S

 
Posted : February 24, 2011 12:09 pm
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I dunno

between the cell towers sprouting up all over, the new broadband towers, 350' tall windmills on the summits and now a new DC high-voltage powerline from Hydro Quebec right through the North Country of New Hampshire with 150' tall metel towers!

I'm starting to feel like the Martians have landed and are invading with their Tripods.

And for what? To light hundreds of thousands of empty parking lots all night long? To stay connected 24 hours a day?

Sometimes I think I was born a century too late.

 
Posted : February 24, 2011 12:26 pm
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Angel

Ventana Canyon is beautiful. It was really gorgeous before those $$$$$$ homes went in.

I'm apparently one of the few people to notice that isn't a real cactus. Nobody working on the house next door knew. I looked closely because it seemed a little too wide. Must have cost a bundle, but no expense spared in that area.

You wouldn't have liked it two weeks ago when we woke up to no water and no gas, so no heat, and the thermometer said 17F. The Indian fig cactus froze solid.

That's Bailey wondering why dad put his tea cup on the ice.

 
Posted : February 24, 2011 12:48 pm
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Angel

> Ventana Canyon is beautiful. It was really gorgeous before those $$$$$$ homes went in.

Yea, I remember in the 1970s when it wasn't so populated. Saguaros and other gorgeous desert plants were abundant.

> You wouldn't have liked it two weeks ago when we woke up to no water and no gas, so no heat, and the thermometer said 17F. The Indian fig cactus froze solid.
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> That's Bailey wondering why dad put his tea cup on the ice.

Yea, you are right there, Bruce. Brrrr!!!! All of my friends and family down there were on FB complaining about how cold it was. Definitely parka weather for Tucson!! 17º is brutal to those that are climatized to 70º & up desert weather. The pipes at my aunts house froze and burst. To see your pool with a layer of ice...that is just crazy, but a good reminder that Tucson does indeed at times get below freezing.

I was reading an article in the Daily Star about how some of the the Saguaros and other cacti may die off because of that freeze. 🙁

 
Posted : February 24, 2011 1:19 pm
(@a-harris)
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The rent/lease from the towers is good money. I would welcome one on my land.

 
Posted : February 24, 2011 2:39 pm
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I have one, I had first disguised tower constructed on a disused chimney. Merges well into the sky. Across the road a few years later they purposely constructed three chimneys on that building to hide the towers.

RADU

 
Posted : February 24, 2011 3:44 pm
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Reminds me of a City Council meeting I once attended where a woman got up and said "When I moved here 6 months ago from the Bay area I never dreamed I would be here to tell you how you are letting the small-town atmosphere of your community be destroyed by these new housing developments." EVERY jaw in the room hit the floor - but the speaker was clueless as to why...

 
Posted : February 25, 2011 9:09 am
(@dave-karoly)
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We don't consider ourselves part of the problem. I am me, not one of the 10,000 others who moved from the Bay Area who are just nameless statistics. 🙂

 
Posted : February 25, 2011 9:21 am
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NIMBY

I've heard a million of those NIMBY arguments at Council meetings. One that sticks in my mind was from one of the Council members, an attorney, who said when he flies over the community, he likes to see treetops, not rooftops. I had to bite my tongue not to ask him if he lives in a tree.

 
Posted : February 25, 2011 9:52 am
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NIMBY

If you don't mind the occasional F-bomb and other assorted expletives, George has an interesting view on NIMBY's.

[flash width=640 height=390] http://www.youtube.com/v/43Egm0j_p1A?version=3 [/flash]

 
Posted : February 25, 2011 10:17 am
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NIMBY

There always seems to be an abundance of Council members that flaunt all the perks like a plane, small castle at the end of a long winding driveway, cabin cruiser, towncar and a long list of other stuff and expect everyone else to live in a burrow as not to take away from their view of nature.;-)

 
Posted : February 25, 2011 10:57 am
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NIMBY

That's another real common "strategy" with neighbors opposed to proposed developments. They say they bought their property across the street from that vacant lot so they could enjoy the view and the cavorting squirrels and such. Answer: It's for sale if you like it that much.

 
Posted : February 25, 2011 11:52 am