If money is not your top concern, you could get a super tough Cat S61 with
"...?ÿ a laser-assisted distance measurement system that can measure distance and area automatically." among other things.
I have no idea if the distance thing is actually useful. I was interested because of the built in Flir Camera but it will not work on Verizon.
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Apple triple play. Always have always will.
I once kept a Samsung phone in my pocket "Company provided" and it was fine, but not an Apple. Now iPhones can run with two SIM cards, two different numbers going to the same phone. Nice.
two different numbers going to the same phone.
That's the expensive way to do it.?ÿ I have my wife's old landline number routed to her cell phone via Flowroute, it costs about $1.50 a month.
Yeah, ok, so I admit it, I'm the luddite.
I just do not see any advantage to having a smartphone.
It does voice and text and has an ok camera and a torch.
It can play music, but I dont actually use it much for that.
I like the 14 day battery life.
But best of all it's rugged and waterproof enough to survive in my pocket.
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Yeah, ok, so I admit it, I'm the luddite.
I just do not see any advantage to having a smartphone.
It does voice and text and has an ok camera and a torch.
It can play music, but I dont actually use it much for that.
I like the 14 day battery life.
But best of all it's rugged and waterproof enough to survive in my pocket.
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I was wondering who the mouth breather was.
In truth, I barely scratch the surface of my phone capabilities. My gripe though is the unnecessary crap and unwanted bloat ware on the phone.?ÿ
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A few months ago I had some samsung crap change the entire GUI and screen layout and I cannot figure out how to undo it.?ÿ
Windstream has call forwarding and I use that to route all calls to my cell.
Verizon Help will talk me thru how to do anything electronic in my entire household, be it either my phone to setting up the smart tv or 7.1 stereo sound system and solving connections on my PC. They mostly lookup a manual on Google and basically interpret that into English.
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If you truly wish to eliminate the bloat and crap, then rooting and installing a custom ROM is the way to go. If either you or your daughter are interested in pursuing that path, the XDA Developers forums is a huge community of phone modders:?ÿ https://forum.xda-developers.com/
What it takes is a lot of reading. If you are lucky, somebody might have written up a concise tutorial for the phone you want to root. The mantra with these tutorials is "use at your own risk". Generally, if somebody wrote bad instructions, there will be many people posting about it later in the thread.
Somebody already recommended the OnePlus 6T phone in this thread. It happens that that phone is one of the easiest to root and install things onto. Another benefit to rooting is you can install software to block ads.
I was thinking about suggesting loading a custom ROM also, but it isn't for the casual user.
I was thinking about suggesting loading a custom ROM also, but it isn't for the casual user.
Folks I am not smart enough to do that and I am not sure I would want to ask my kid to do it either as it risks ruining the phone. Hence the reason why I will likely go back to Apple when it is time for a new one.
Kind of like politics, choices these days are one of two less than ideal candidates.
Before BlackBerry adopted Android, their BB10 OS blew both Android and iOS away, and at that time I had both a personal BB and a company iPhone 4, I finally parked the iPhone 4 and just went to my personal BB for all usage. The only downside of BB10 was the apps, you know a phone these days is much more than a phone, e-mail, texting device!
Now after having a BB Android version for a couple of years, just not convinced Android is all that. Despite the locked down iOS, that could be my next device.
Is AutoCad or MicroSoft or xxxx really the best? No, but they beat out the lesser but arguably better options and they no longer exist. So in the end, you pick the lesser of two evils that you can get along with.
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Would it be fair to say the "compatibly-life" of an Android OS system is less than that of iOS, such that you're going to get that spirit-breaking message "This app is not compatible with your device" more frequently with Android than Apple?
Never had an android app to not work on my devices.
What irritates me is when good apps suddenly want money for their use.
Fortunately there is usually another free app tO replace it with.
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My daily phone is on the left, no compatibility issues there.
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I am quite suprised by the results of the poll as I truly thought most of you would be like me and prefer the simplicity of Apple products over Android. I readily admit Android has more flexibility and definately more Apps but it is loaded up with bloat ware and unnecessary crap.
I am not brave enough or smart enough to root the phone.
Unless Android (specifically Samsung I guess) changes the way they package their products and gives me the ability to eliminate the built in stuff I will likely go back to Apple.
Assuming I do not loose or break the phone I likely have a few years to do something so maybe Samsung will change their ways.
Thought I'd share this, if I was in the Apple system I'd grab one or two myself:
Samsung is the problem. I suspect you'd be much happier with a Google Pixel or OnePlus phone due to the lack of bloatware and overlays.
You might also want to check into Google's AndroidOne initiative -- they recognize that manufacturer overlays and bloatware have become a problem, so they've assembled a few phones that run Android as intended.
Samsung is the problem. I suspect you'd be much happier with a Google Pixel or OnePlus phone due to the lack of bloatware and overlays.
You might also want to check into Google's AndroidOne initiative -- they recognize that manufacturer overlays and bloatware have become a problem, so they've assembled a few phones that run Android as intended.
Thank you,?ÿ I will definitely look into it.
I am for the most part a techie ignoramus.?ÿ
I've been using Samsungs for several years now.?ÿ My wife has been using Apples.?ÿ Each seems to have its advantages and its drawbacks over the others.?ÿ We each prefer the phone we have over the other's.
Last time I upgraded, I went from a Samsung Note 4 to (initially) a Pixel [whatever the new model was a year or so ago].?ÿ The price on the Pixel was significantly less than either the Samnsung S8 or Note 8, but in the week or two that I used it, it seemed to be plagued with several bugs.?ÿ I took it back and got a Note 8, which has been trouble free.
The bloatware many have mentioned is annoying, at first.?ÿ I don't know anything about rooting, bricking, pruning, or picking phones, but was able to remove some of the bloatware and simply turn off the rest, replacing it with a better 3rd party app that does the same job but does it better.
Someone also mentioned being annoyed by notifications.?ÿ I've mostly let the nuances of technology leave me behind over the past 10 or 15 years, but didn't have much difficulty figuring out how to select which type of notifications I want to come through.
The Note 8 is quite a bit faster than my Note 4 was and has a much better camera, but it seems that those are things that can be said about practically any new smartphone as compared to practically any older smartphone.?ÿ I've had to use the Verizon helpline a couple of times and have no complaints - which means that I didn't have to remain on hold for very long, didn't have to deal with confusing phone menus, could understand what the person at the other end was saying, and was given solutions that worked.
If my Note 4 hadn't gotten to the point, after about 3 years, that the battery would only hold a charge for a couple hours, or had I thought of looking into the option of replacing the battery, I'd probably still be using it.?ÿ The only real complaints I had of the Note 4 was that the battery life started becoming noticeably shorter after a little less than a year.?ÿ
The only other complaint I have of either the Note 4 or the Note 8 is that they are too big to fit into some pockets.?ÿ That would have been easily remedied by getting a smaller phone.?ÿ But that would have made for the problem that my eyes are getting to the point that I need the larger screen in order to be able to read what's on it.?ÿ Maybe before I upgrade next time I'll invest in Lasik surgery first.
I think for the casual user, the choice between Android or Apple comes down to what you're used to and comfortable with.?ÿ For most of us, for anything that we would use our smartphones for, there are decent apps for both Apple and Android.
Then there are folks like my dad who had a smartphone for a month or two before trading it in for a simple flip phone.?ÿ Said that he had no use for a phone that was smarter than he was.
The Note 4 drives me nuts, it is for someone that makes notes and sketches to post online and watches media on their phone.
I went back to my S5 which is more of a phone that will do everything and more, I had to use it for 3wks as my text editor and to print documents received in my email when my internet computer went down.
Another kudos to Brother Printers, their app is totally awesome.
