Makes we wonder? Anyone here (well obviously not) but does anyone know a surveyor who does not use a computer? Do you feel like you have to use a computer to work? I think it is kinda silly really. Doctors and Surveyors worked for hundreds of years with no computers. But the Board took her license.
Does your State Board require the use of a computer?
I remember the days when general practitioners actually practicing medicine instead of sending me to a specialist for every single thing. I liked those days.
My job could well be done without a computer. It would take longer, but quite possible.
The linked article highlights government intrusion quite well. If someone is good at their job, I just don't get the requirement for computers.
If I had a manual typewriter handy, I'd gladly ship it to that woman totally without cost. Good for her for standing her ground!
Well this almost counts. Last February I bought the records and some assets of a surveying firm two hamlets east of me. The owner passed in 11/16 and he was using 1992 Wild Soft on a PC with Windows2000. The other LS who worked there used a HP85 till the day he left in 1/17.
One of my mentors was still hand drafting plats two years ago.?ÿ If he's still working it's probably without a computer for drafting. He happily pounds away on a HP and uses internal programs on his Nikon.
My doctor (GP) had his own practice 'til this fall, but on my last visit explained he was joining forces with a nearby hospital. The reason: the feds are requiring computerized records.?ÿ?ÿRather than purchase a computer system and scan all of his old records he will let his new employer do it.
Steve
I've been at the TN Board of Examiners for Land Surveyors meetings when they've considered new or revised rules.?ÿ I was surprised, but one of the things that they have to look at is will the new/revised rule force any registrant to purchase new equipment.?ÿ On a rural survey we're still allowed a 1:5000 closure, and I've been told that one of the primary reasons that hasn't been tightened up is that requiring a higher closure would effectively require the use of modern equipment and possibly force a few folks out of business.
I know a draftsman who still only does it by hand. He makes a very nice living. No computers required in his office for work product.
Wow. This has nothing to do with whether she's competent to practice. Let that speak for itself.
He must be devine.?ÿ
I read about this a week or 2 ago and there was a comment that made reference to her not being able to access the national database for controlled substances like painkillers and she had apparently wrote a script for one when she should not have but it also read like it was a setup to entrap her to justify taking her license. After reading it I really came away thinking "those jerks" pulled a fast one on her to get her out of the way and I would not be surprised if it was a local doctor who did it.
She was probably passing on the savings of not having computerized to her patients and was charging 1/3 of what the other local doctors charged. More than enough reason for another local doctor to shank her in the parking lot.
Liquor Store parking lot no doubt & she probably deserved it.
Seriously though, I don't recall reading anything about pricing or fee's but it did sound (read) like a setup to entrap her.
I recall a doctor closing his private practice and going to work full-time for a hospital over something very similar.
It's really just a big bummer. Obviously her patients were satisfied.?ÿ Big Government?ÿ (not political) will not allow for outliers. She had records of her interactions and prescriptions. I hope she takes it to the courts - if for no other reason to protect other professions.?ÿ NH is a very Libertarian State. If the medical Boards there dropped the hammer - there is probably no hope for other professions
Do medical boards require computer skills? Experience??ÿOne good thing - her patients probably didn't have to worry about data breach or inflated insurance costs.
?ÿI suspect the powers (Insurance companies and Pharmaceuticals) were the dark force behind push from the Board that issued the shut-down.
I read a couple of more articles about this. Looks like she signed an agreement with the board to voluntarily surrender her license that included language that required her to meet all the current standards if she reapplied for licensure. Then she sued to get her license back. The Judge dismissed her case by ruling that laws controlling the regulation of professions was enacted by the legislature and it wasn't the court's place to interfere in the process that was established by elected representative of the people.
It depends.?ÿ If you want to record a plat in Georgia it has to be digital.?ÿ I guess you could carry it somewhere and have it scanned though.
Andy
Medicine is a profession with professional standards like any, standards which are established to protect the patients, like hand washing before surgery, that kind of thing.?ÿ Computers can be a required item because of controlled substances, prescription conflicts (a friend's mother almost died from a prescription conflict, another Doctor in a different (bigger) city figured it out, saved her life, probably used a computer).
What if the cheapest local surveyor was beloved in the community, never used a computer, gps, total station, chain, transit, nothing, just paced and used a pocket compass, but a really great guy, really charismatic, like I said his clients just love the guy.?ÿ The board comes down on him then some national axe-to-grind 'news' organization with a website and facebook page pick up the story and make it all about big, bad government picking on the beloved local guy.
Andy, Yes Georgia does require digital plats now and I love it HOWEVER if you have to get signatures for approval from a local authority on your plat before recording then you must submit a paper copy for the signatures and then you will have to get that original copy scanned at a Staples or local blueprint shop and THEN record that scanned copy of an original drawing.
Steve
Medicine is a profession with professional standards like any, standards which are established to protect the patients, like hand washing before surgery, that kind of thing.?ÿ Computers can be a required item because of controlled substances, prescription conflicts (a friend's mother almost died from a prescription conflict, another Doctor in a different (bigger) city figured it out, saved her life, probably used a computer).
What if the cheapest local surveyor was beloved in the community, never used a computer, gps, total station, chain, transit, nothing, just paced and used a pocket compass, but a really great guy, really charismatic, like I said his clients just love the guy.?ÿ The board comes down on him then some national axe-to-grind 'news' organization with a website and facebook page pick up the story and make it all about big, bad government picking on the beloved local guy.
Then it would be the same story we are talking about here. Just conversation.
There are no independent medical doctor offices around here.
Without being associated with some medical group or hospital system, they would not have anyone to accept specialist referrals and be able to get them into a hospital.
After a doctor visit several years ago and viewing the invoice that arrived nearly 6mos later, I saw that while at the doctors office, there was billing for specialist of several hundred dollars.
My doctor had sent the electronic xrays to the clinic's association specialist several hours away and there my xrays were viewed and the diagnosis given of rheumatoid arthritis.
Believe me, I knew it was there and did not need a doctor to tell me.
I was there to get some relief by way of being prescribed something that would allow me to sleep more than 30mins.
Anyway, that is an example of what goes on in a doctors office these days.
Whatever one doctor discovers, they share it within their associated group that is not simply onsite, it gets sent thruout their system for whoever is on call that day pulls the findings up on their computer screen and they each give their suggestions in a reply and your local doctor is either told what to do or he makes a decision after consulting with his inner group of doctors.
The last surveyor I knew that did not have a computer or data collector retired about 10yrs ago because he did not want to move into the modern world.
He was still using a transit and chain and producing by hand pencil drawings.
The existence of so many pin cushions and mistaken goat stakes for monuments eventually got the best of him as his work work began to conflict with solid surveys based upon original monuments.
I do know of one surveyor that does not use a data collector, he insists upon going back to the office and hand entering all his field work into COGO and then analyzing the survey or else extrapolating his findings in the field and setting monuments to fit in harmony with what he finds (the old fashioned way, using logic).
And what is wrong with that?
