WA-ID Surveyor, post: 339011, member: 6294 wrote: I think we can sum this up with a few short words 'failure to plan on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part'. This is one of the many reasons why I never work for contractors, ever.
Granted, I do work on a lot of construction projects..just not for the contractor. We require 72 hours notice to set construction stakes. Sure, we try to accomodate them if we can but when we can't, we can't. A little planning goes a long way.
Well that really wasn't the case here. There was no rush or unrealistic expectations on this job. It amounted to about 10 days of field work and he was given the green light to go get it done back in July. We showed up on location last week. He was given notice 3 weeks, 2 weeks and 1 week out that we were coming. No failure to plan on our part there was failure to act on his part.
Not arguing here..becuase I can understand your position. But you can't blame his failure to act on your failure to execute a properly scoped contract detailing your requirements.
Somehow this inquiry has morphed from " ...if someone has a quick question that can be answered with a phone call I don't think it is too much to ask." to "...He was given notice 3 weeks, 2 weeks and 1 week out that we were coming. No failure to plan on our part there was failure to act on his part..." all the while, along the way it has become clear that the surveyor in question was not contracted by Drilldo and that in fact they are both contracted by the same third party, which makes the two of them fellow sub-contractors. How old is this story? The electrician is mad at the site guy because the electrician can't bury his conduit until the mass grading is done, or the surveyor is pissed at the roofers for running over his stakes with the Lull etc. etc. etc. It sounds to me as though Drilldo may have possibly have learned a valuable lesson here about having an iron clad contract that protects his interests and bottom line, but I still get the feeling that he basically holds surveyors in contempt despite his protestations to the contrary. Most of his interaction on this site consists either of picking surveyors brains about how to use surveying equipment to take work from other surveyors, trying to find a field guy to do a couple of weeks of stakeout work for him and whining about surveyors in general.
Just my .02
Randy
Randy Rain, post: 339058, member: 35 wrote: Somehow this inquiry has morphed from " ...if someone has a quick question that can be answered with a phone call I don't think it is too much to ask." to "...He was given notice 3 weeks, 2 weeks and 1 week out that we were coming. No failure to plan on our part there was failure to act on his part..." all the while, along the way it has become clear that the surveyor in question was not contracted by Drilldo and that in fact they are both contracted by the same third party, which makes the two of them fellow sub-contractors. How old is this story? The electrician is mad at the site guy because the electrician can't bury his conduit until the mass grading is done, or the surveyor is pissed at the roofers for running over his stakes with the Lull etc. etc. etc. It sounds to me as though Drilldo may have possibly have learned a valuable lesson here about having an iron clad contract that protects his interests and bottom line, but I still get the feeling that he basically holds surveyors in contempt despite his protestations to the contrary. Most of his interaction on this site consists either of picking surveyors brains about how to use surveying equipment to take work from other surveyors, trying to find a field guy to do a couple of weeks of stakeout work for him and whining about surveyors in general.
Just my .02
Randy
Yes I had a quick question for him and he didn't return my call. Turns out he screwed up and maybe that is why he didn't want to return my call. He got fired from the job because of it and someone else is out there cleaning up his mess if it really matters. Had he returned my call we likely would have realized his mistake and he would have had time to correct it before the whole project grinded to a halt.
Yes we were both contractors on a job. Did I ever state otherwise? What difference does it make?
The 3 week, 2 week notice part was because someone posted that " failure to plan on my part did not constitute an emergency on their part". I was just explaining that it was not the case. It wasn't like I called the guy at the last minute on a friday evening and wanted him to perform miracles for us. He knew well in advance when we were coming and things needed to be ready when we got there and they were not.
I am not a surveyor but I work with surveying equipment on almost a daily basis. I truly enjoy it and like learning as much as I can. It sounds goofy but I read all kinds of stuff about surveying whenever I can like it is a hobby for me.
I don't take work form other surveyors virtually all the work I do with surveying equipment is for my own projects. I have contracted out surveying on occasion but it is not RPLS people that do it. The vast majority of professional surveyors have no interest in doing the type of work we do.
Yes I like to pick peoples brains on here and I try to contribute whenever I can. I am by no means as knowledge about surveying as probably anyone on here but I think I have helped some people out on occasion with more practical matters. I think this site is a very valuable resource and like to learn more about surveying whenever I can.
And yes I did need to hire someone to help with a project. I ended up not hiring someone from on here but I did give someone a job and they appreciated it and earned a good chunk of change and they enjoyed doing it. What is wrong with that?
As to whining about surveyors in general I do not do that. All I have said is most the times surveyors have tried to do stuff in my particular line of work it doesn't go well. I am quite sure they do excellent at what they normally do.
I'm on call 24/7 for my wife. Everyone else can wait until Monday.
Over the last 30 years of Private (solo) Practice, I have been pretty much 'ON CALL' 24/7/365.
I did not know that a degree in surveying also came with an Emergency Physician's diploma....
I have always been a "team player" or "whatever it takes" kind of guy. I got a lot of business when I owned my own firm because I went above and beyond the normal expectations, and was compensated for my time. It was always spelled out in a contract, but I always believed too that they haired a professional to assist them with a project, and with that, came certain responsibilities.
I never had a project that had a crew on site 7 days a week though.
FrancisH, post: 340710, member: 10211 wrote: Over the last 30 years of Private (solo) Practice, I have been pretty much 'ON CALL' 24/7/365.
I did not know that a degree in surveying also came with an Emergency Physician's diploma....
My condolances...
My condolances.
