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dmyhill, post: 444530, member: 1137 wrote: Uhhh...that's cheap.

Uh, you don't work in Tennessee.

 
Posted : 01/09/2017 10:51 am
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My Sherman Act appropriate response is my rates are based on how wide much the client grimaces when we talk cost.

 
Posted : 01/09/2017 10:51 am
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dmyhill, post: 444530, member: 1137 wrote: Uhhh...that's cheap.

That's similar to Oklahoma rates. Not conceivable in any west coast jurisdiction. It's just a different game.

 
Posted : 01/09/2017 10:57 am
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James Fleming, post: 444527, member: 136 wrote: That has oil & gas written all over it.

Good guess. Partially right, ND boom state mentality......but Water wastewater primarily.

 
Posted : 01/09/2017 11:05 am
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The oil and gas companies have tightened their belts. The Bakken is a much more competitive market than it was just a couple of years ago.

 
Posted : 01/09/2017 12:24 pm
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Tommy Young, post: 444471, member: 703 wrote: Generally speaking, lot surveys are $700 and 5 acre tracts run about $1000.

You're kidding, right?

 
Posted : 01/09/2017 12:26 pm
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Jim in AZ, post: 444567, member: 249 wrote: You're kidding, right?

He charges 30% less if they only need "one line"

 
Posted : 01/09/2017 1:19 pm
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Jim in AZ, post: 444567, member: 249 wrote: You're kidding, right?

I doubt it. In a lot of these places you can buy the land outright for $5k or less.

 
Posted : 01/09/2017 1:22 pm
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Until some of you work in West Tennessee, I'd advise you to keep your mouth shut. I don't accuse you of running an operation ripping off consumers.

 
Posted : 01/09/2017 1:31 pm
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Tommy Young, post: 444591, member: 703 wrote: Until some of you work in West Tennessee, I'd advise you to keep your mouth shut. I don't accuse you of running an operation ripping off consumers.

In my part of the country, the older surveyors have conditioned the community that $250 for a lot survey is a fair price, hence when I tell the client that my minimum is 625 for just about anything out in the field they look at me cross eyed.

One of the main reasons for this is to figure out a way to gently up prices so I can then afford to keep the good help I have, otherwise the future of surveying is in the hands of meth addicted cheap surveyor working to feed his addiction. Now if think that is an a-hole thing to say, you are right, I'm not trying to mock or degrade struggling addicts, but I see it all too often. Meth head crews with white trash tribal tattoe sleeves. I mean get tattoes worth looking at, not barb wire for crying out loud. At least them a conversation piece and I love tattoes.

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Posted : 01/09/2017 1:44 pm
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@ Tommy Young

I can understand your point of view with that being the custom of your local area.
With your experience and background, you can do that where you are.
There is always that call that I can do a deal and quick turn around because I've already done most of it already.
I know of a few that are in the same ballpark, except around here they are hard to follow and I do not like to come across their work because it increases my job to check what they have done in addition to what I am attempting.
It is not uncommon to go to a job and find monuments on both sides of a crosstie fence corner.
There are two because they were surveying property on one side 5 yrs ago and on the other side 1 yr ago and the original deed called for a stake by a fence corner.
Sometimes one of them has been there for a hundred years and they simply looked on one side of the fence and by habit set the new corner at the intersection of the wires or at an eyeball location so it could be seen from the instrument, who really knows.
Also, 10 years ago I am sure that I was able to get twice as much done in the same amount of time for it to get done today.
There are not that many places around here that I can find things according to what was described in the last deed.
Being able to do that makes a whole world of difference.
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Posted : 01/09/2017 2:14 pm
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Tommy Young, post: 444471, member: 703 wrote: Generally speaking, lot surveys are $700 and 5 acre tracts run about $1000.

How do you afford to leave the office.

I have a mission impossible right now. We looked at it 10 years ago and told them to make a boundary agreement. They cannot see eye to eye and one party put up 10k for hourly research which is not guaranteed to be successful.

No fee is ever too great.

 
Posted : 01/09/2017 3:33 pm
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VA LS 2867, post: 444493, member: 1444 wrote: This one is simple. You, as the professional, are to price your job based on what you think it will take to get the job done. If you miss your mark and have more time in it, unless you are billing hourly, you take your lumps and eat the added cost. I usually will look at a project and if there is something sketchy with it, the fee gets bumped up for contingencies.

As a professional why are we setting a lump sum fixed rate price? No attorney sets a fixed price for their services and how would we miss the mark in pricing? I think most of us have the experience and know how to estimate a job correctly. Now I will admit that sometimes I do miss whay I thought was the tune frame, but typically we are pretty close.

My thought is to get away from the fixed price mentality and gear more towards the hourly charge. To me that makes the most sense, you have a fixed price going out in labor, rent, utilities (sometimes known amount) and supplies. It's impossible to nail down the exact amount of hours each job will take, my point is we... that means me...all to often have a fear of "overcharging" yet other professionals dont seem to be shy about their rates. Maybe that's just my perception, but that's one of the reasons for this post.

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Posted : 01/09/2017 3:51 pm
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Mark Mayer, post: 444589, member: 424 wrote: I doubt it. In a lot of these places you can buy the land outright for $5k or less.

I just bought 43 acres of rolling property with about half in pasture, and a 36x48x20 tall insulated metal building with a concrete floor for less than $3k per acre, and it's 14 minutes from the courthouse of the second largest city in West Tennessee.

No one from the west coast, or Massachusetts, has any understanding of the cost of things down here.

 
Posted : 01/09/2017 5:02 pm
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C.Tompkins, post: 444594, member: 975 wrote: In my part of the country, the older surveyors have conditioned the community that $250 for a lot survey is a fair price, hence when I tell the client that my minimum is 625 for just about anything out in the field they look at me cross eyed.

One of the main reasons for this is to figure out a way to gently up prices so I can then afford to keep the good help I have, otherwise the future of surveying is in the hands of meth addicted cheap surveyor working to feed his addiction. Now if think that is an a-hole thing to say, you are right, I'm not trying to mock or degrade struggling addicts, but I see it all too often. Meth head crews with white trash tribal tattoe sleeves. I mean get tattoes worth looking at, not barb wire for crying out loud. At least them a conversation piece and I love tattoes.

Rant off.

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If you good work in a timely fashion, you'll get plenty of work with the highest prices in town.

 
Posted : 01/09/2017 5:04 pm
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