So I just got a call from the airport managers office requesting any information and assistance for determining the distance from the Runway Stop point to the ILS antenna array.
Apparently some FAA weenies say it's 10 feet too close, and I foisted back, tell them to show you how and where they measured from. And it better not be a desk and a mouse either.
Will keep you posted. Anyone ever deal with stuff like this?
Yes, "you need to be 75 feet from the intersection"
Are you serious?
Where do you start? Where do you stop? So, if I'm 74.99 feet, you're going to make me tear it out?
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Forgive me, if I repeat myself, but, Are you serious?
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Dougie
dozen's of times.?ÿ
The inspector who said the cross slope on a walk way didn't meet ADA requirements. Turns out they did meet the requirements but the little carpenter's level he used to find a 2.1% (no really he stated it was 2.1%) instead of 2% slope was a bit off.
Then?ÿ there was the company who said I had a well in the wrong section. Turns out they only used NAD27 data for their plots and their section lines were just a "bit" off so my well instead of being 200' into section X plotted 200' into section Y on their "mapping" using NAD27 for my NAD83 lat long and their section lines.?ÿ
Or the permitting company that said a string of buildings were into a coal permit boundary. They insisted on using the "official" section lines on the PLS (whatever that is) instead of the monumented lines with the big caps. You can stand on the monumented 1/4 corner which is a 6" lead cap in a pipe sticking up about 18" above ground and look down the fence line towards the other cap and see the buildings are clear, that was the only way I convinced them the PLS (whatever that is) is off.?ÿ
It goes on and on, the people who said I gave them Lat, Longs in inches and feet and frankly any Zone A on a FEMA map.?ÿ
I'm going to guess that it was a desk measurement. Maybe from a photo?
When an airport updates the ALP they will usually do an airspace study which typically requires an 18B survey.?ÿ These surveys will locate all the required features and perform aerial mapping.
From FAA AC-18B (p. 237-238)?ÿ Change 1 to AC 150/5300-18B, General Guidance and Specifications for Submission of Aeronautical Surveys to NGS: Field Data Collection and Geographic Information System (GIS) Standards, 24 February 2014 (faa.gov)
The array should be located within 1' of its absolute position
"Distance from the centerline perpendicular point to the physical
runway end. This should be the same distance as the antenna to
threshold distance unless the runway end the navigational aid
serves has a displaced threshold. Provide this distance to the
nearest tenth of a foot."
My guess is the FAA is seeing the results of the 18B survey and have some questions.
Its not the 1000' minimum I care about, it's the standard that was developed and works for safety. No argument or complaint.
Its where they decided to take and how they measured it
And then whom....and how are they qualified to be the decision maker.
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I remember scrapping with an FAA staff member about a 165' ft. structure that was a 1/2 mile (laterally) from a runway.?ÿ He thought the structure violated the OFZ (forgive me if that's the wrong term as it's been years) cone that radiates from the RW @ 6% (maybe).
After several conversations if came to light that the ground on which the structure sat was 45' lower than the RW...something he failed to consider.
Yep!
That was done in 2014 before I ever set foot here, and is registered in the AGIS by some big ol Fancy pants geospatial company, so if it was approved and acceptable then, and nothing (except probably personnel) has changed or been modified, they need to show how and where they discovered this new info 7 years later .?ÿ ?ÿ ?ÿ
Its ok, they have more Acronyms than a pharmacy has little pills. OFZ is object free zone, oka Oh frick Zoom!!!!
more Acronyms than a pharmacy has little pills
Reminds me of a similar phrase I haven't heard in a long time, "more __ than Carter has little liver pills."?ÿ Maybe nobody under retirement age remembers it? Maybe you half remember it.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carter%27s_Little_Liver_Pills
@bill93?ÿ
I was going to use that but feared that same blank stare.
My Dad said this and still does every chance he gets to insert the esoteric reference to Carter's little pills.
Makes sense, he's a central western Illinois derivative.
Thank you for using the reference.
74.99 feet
"discretionary rounding" is utilized in situations such as this. 74.5 through 74.9 = 75' ?????ÿ
@bill93?ÿ
Hell, I still remember Burma Shave billboards, and Stuckey's too. ("only 248 miles to the next Stuckey's") ?????ÿ
@flga-2-2?ÿ
A friend of mine is the niece of Bobs BigBoy.
True story.
@flga-2-2?ÿ
I remember barns painted with Mail Pouch Tobacco advertising.
I loved the various jingles and other gimmicks.
The poor little gal with the dog pulling on her swim suit bottom revealing her very white butt.
Buster Brown and his little doggy selling shoes
"You'll wonder where the yellow went, when you................."
"Plop, plop, fizz, fizz, oh what a.................."
"A little dab'll do ya.............."
" And ah helped............."
"It'll take a lickin' and keep................"
"Call for ................................."
"See the U.S.A. in a ...................."
"Yipes. Stripes......................."
"Double your pleasure, double your................"
"They're GGGRRREEEAAATTT!!!"
"What time is it? It's...................."
The bottle filled with Aunt Jemima syrup.
The tin cans of Karo Syrup
Hot dogs were bright red, not some blase color
Candy cigarettes were hot sellers
"Ya-hoo, it's .................."
"Breakfast of Champions"
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The little liver pills brought to mind a name famous to women many, many years ago.?ÿ Long before anyone I knew might have sent her money for her products for women.
Peposedent, brylcream, oh what a relief it is, phillip morris etc....... ?????ÿ
