...used for a new type of land development.
Urban renewal areas of URA are popping up and being earmarked with funding for public development for parks etc.
I'm being asked to draft up a non legal "legal" for the cause and wondered if any of you steam punk plumb bob slingers have any information about or experience with this type of work.
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I'm just going along the URA 'boundary' from their planner GIS coordination, and tagging the specific corner of the parcels touched, and roads or ROW crossed as they are generally in same locations.?ÿ Either way before you get you panties in a bunch, I'm only doing what I was asked, I'm not Surveying without a license(under responsible charge) and just really want to know if anyone else can offer any stories or advice for the board here.
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and GO!
That blob of dirt west of You Know, south of Hunker Down, east of Say What and north of Okey Dokey.
are you hiring?
I think I could make some waves there!
I've been writing legals for annexation of land to our fair city. Very heavy on bounds calls, metes coming from any old survey record, or amalgamation of records, I can find.?ÿ
I was assured that the "lawyers" said this was ok, to which I put on my dunce cap and just used the previous PLS version as a template. it's a weird way to draft an almost legal description, and for me after recently finishing my first legal boundaries and evidence class, an eye opener for sure. thanks for the information.
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I believe it would only be considered a 'legal' description if it was used in an instrument to convey title. I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong.
Just because I'm paranoid, doesn't mean they aren't out to get me.
I'm basically thinking about this as the TOM-TOM version of a legal description that you can walk along with the drawing and map from the planning department.
Absolutely nothing conveying or being encumbered etc.
Annexation by state statute has to be monumented. That's caused a few annexation projects to be scrapped. Zoning areas are less strident. There have been some bad decisions made by commissions concerning zoning. They did need to have a description attached to them until one court case established the GIS as the go-to document. Hopefully that case is a one-off.
I would say the commission might be able to craft some rules for the description of these URA's as long as those rules don't conflict with zoning, annexation and existing state statutes. My very un-informed guess is that since it's kinda a new thing it could be done without any push-back.
But, I would propose some rules be put before the commissions to facilitate this.?ÿ
Yeah, this isnt annexation either, thats already been platted filed spat upon and S*@#... yeah you get it....
You can describe from an intersection of a ROW, thence along a certain ROW to an intersection with another ROW or bounds of a tax parcel...then proceed as necessary.?ÿ I've described districts in this manner but they have no legal weight other than drinking in public on one side of the line, get arrested for drinking in public on the opposite side of the line.?ÿ I hope this helps.
All of Blocks 1,3,5,7 and 9 in Doglover Addition to Memphus and all of Blocks 1,2,3,4,5,6,7 and 8 of Catlover Addition to Memphus.
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Stay off of War Street which adjoins both Additions.
that's exactly what I am doing, thanks for the responses from you and everyone.
if they want to build URA and parks and don't need to get it surveyed, it's a great tool to get things going.
I always get a bit apprehensive when they start off with "The lawyers said it's ok..."?ÿ
Hence the open dialogue with the people that have a professional License and employees working with them to keep all this stuff from getting more out of control than need be.
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Carry on!
Find the document that is prepared every year by cities over a certain size that describes where the city limits are located as of that date.?ÿ I think that is the type of description they are expecting.
Sometimes you have to get creative when describing something that hasn't been surveyed.?ÿ Be careful when doing something like this.?ÿ If you get too specific, especially with dimensions, someone WILL interpret your description as being based on a field survey.
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*EDIT*** use northerly, southeasterly, westerly, etc... instead of a specific bearing...same reasoning as above.
I was warned explicitly by the planner to not go beyond the city boundary...
which is also the North Right of Way (ROW) of Weld County Road(WCR) 14 also known as Colorado State Highway 52.......
these things get kind of like a momentum like a train with no brakes going down hill after a while I'm sure....???????????????
and I'm enjoying the learning process, as the class projects were also very plain Jane and not really challenging or very interesting to do.
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My map from the planners was meh... So i just?ÿ put on my GIS cap and dug into the very well built out Weld county data set, actually really appreciate the amount of work they dumped into making it usable and valuable.
fun stuff
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and when I finish I'm going to open and review my pile...
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A question.?ÿ Does the URA process involve the streets in addition to the properties?
We have Neighborhood Revitalization Projects that only apply to the property owners.?ÿ Ideally, these are confined to a designated area within a City or County.?ÿ Same sort of idea.?ÿ Target improvements in a specific area.
unsure. I wasn't briefed to that level, just given the work because we dont have enough people with legal writing skills available at the moment.
scary day when I'm the bottom of the barrel, and it is for all the right reasons. ???? ???? ?????ÿ
I know too much to act stupid, and don't know enough to be genius.
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When an attorney says it's OK for me to do something it takes me about ten minutes to stop laughing. Then I leave.