Most Counties in Oregon accept paper copies, though some are as thick as cardboard. Some will accept paper for Plats, but require mylar for boundary surveys, and vice versa. And then there are the cities that require as-builts on mylar or vellum. Oregon Statute allows digital signatures, but I don't know of a County that allows final documents to be submitted that way. Soon, I hope.
I had a buddy once who had his business cards printed on mylar. He would use it all sorts of ways. Line in the bar he would challenge the bar tender to tear it in half with his bare hands. Won many drinks with that one. Cute women could tear in up or call him...., I don't think that worked too often.
There are a few places around here that still require mylar documents, mainly because of outdated ordinances or rules. It was required because the copy process was not permanent enough and the original had to be retained. That evolved to the photo mylar process where the image was "burned" into the mat, requiring a two-step chemical process to edit. Ink from my seal never did dry very well on mylar. I had to spray a fixative on it and any signatures before recording because the recorder used to rub a piece of paper over the drawing and if any ink came off it was rejected. Not something you wanted to happen as the end of a long platting process.
Cheers,
Daniel Ralph, post: 353855, member: 8817 wrote: I had a buddy once who had his business cards printed on mylar. He would use it all sorts of ways. Line in the bar he would challenge the bar tender to tear it in half with his bare hands. Won many drinks with that one. Cute women could tear in up or call him...., I don't think that worked too often.
There are a few places around here that still require mylar documents, mainly because of outdated ordinances or rules. It was required because the copy process was not permanent enough and the original had to be retained. That evolved to the photo mylar process where the image was "burned" into the mat, requiring a two-step chemical process to edit. Ink from my seal never did dry very well on mylar. I had to spray a fixative on it and any signatures before recording because the recorder used to rub a piece of paper over the drawing and if any ink came off it was rejected. Not something you wanted to happen as the end of a long platting process.Cheers,
"There are a few places around here that still require mylar documents, mainly because of outdated ordinances or rules."
What is "outdated" about the requirement? There is still no better option I'm aware of...
Staedtler permanent Lumocolor pens work perfectly...
British Columbia has been fully Digital for submissions for several years now. All plans, recording documents etc are submitted as PDFs with the digital signature of the surveyor attached.
I could count the number of mylars printed in the last five years on my fingers, and we haven't used vellum at all.
Jim in AZ, post: 353887, member: 249 wrote: There is still no better option I'm aware of...
Are you serious?
How about clicking the send button on an app...
I could see your point if the only option was to run these dinosaurs through a blue line machine. The last time I saw one of those was in a museum.
We have too much faith in the permanence of electronic documents and file formats.
Dave Karoly, post: 353895, member: 94 wrote: We have too much faith in the permanence of electronic documents and file formats.
Not trying to be rude (because I am skeptical of some things that others are sure of) but I have heard that this was the attitude towards EDM back in the day. I am kind of new to this (licensed for only 8 years) but I would be surprised if electronic documents would fail. And then if they are backed up then there shouldn't ever be a problem. Better then some counties where they say "Ah... those old maps... that was before the courthouse burned down."
Maybe when I have been licensed for 40 years I will see it happen.
Mylar is a brand name for polyethethylene film.
That's the stuff they make tarps out of. Seems to me anyone could use cut tarp to make a map from if it is clear and thick enough (4-6 mil) and fairly free of crinkles. Should be easy and cheap to obtain. It's expensive to get those pre-cut sheets.
Haven't done it yet, but could be an interesting project.
RADAR, post: 353894, member: 413 wrote: Are you serious?
How about clicking the send button on an app...
I could see your point if the only option was to run these dinosaurs through a blue line machine. The last time I saw one of those was in a museum.
I am absolutely serious! The "Send" button? What am I sending? My State Statute requires a scaled drawing. If you are suggesting a PDF file please let me know how you print a PDF file of a drawing to the correct scale - I've found it to be impossible..
Steve Boon, post: 353893, member: 416 wrote: British Columbia has been fully Digital for submissions for several years now. All plans, recording documents etc are submitted as PDFs with the digital signature of the surveyor attached.
I could count the number of mylars printed in the last five years on my fingers, and we haven't used vellum at all.
How do you print PDF drawings to scale?
Jim in AZ, post: 353931, member: 249 wrote: How do you print PDF drawings to scale?
As long as the drawing has a bar scale - and a drawing isn't complete without one, in my view - I don't consider print scaling to be a significant problem. And if for some reason you truly need a paper copy at a particular scale, it's easy enough to fiddle with the print scale parameter to achieve that goal.
Jim in AZ, post: 353931, member: 249 wrote: How do you print PDF drawings to scale?
Assuming that the original pdf was created on a standard sheet size then it's just a matter of printing it to the same size of paper with the print scale set to 100%
PDFs that are created "to fit" paper size will generally not be to scale.
Make PDF to scale and print actual size.
A Harris, post: 354381, member: 81 wrote: PDFs that are created "to fit" paper size will generally not be to scale.
Make PDF to scale and print actual size.
I can't tell you how many times I've accidentally overlooked the "to fit" and "actual size" options. Typically not the end of the world for me, but annoying none the less
Steve Boon, post: 354375, member: 416 wrote: Assuming that the original pdf was created on a standard sheet size then it's just a matter of printing it to the same size of paper with the print scale set to 100%
Nope - may be close, but not exact...
