Is it illegal or unethical to sell or trade your actual framed professional surveying certificate?
In California it would be illegal, because the certificate belongs to the state.
Now that is a strange question.
Uhmmm....how much you got?:-)
Don
I can't imagine I would get much for mine, it was obviously printed on the office printer because you can see it was low on toner...got some nice streaks in mine. Nice, huh?
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IMHO w/out checking anywhere...probably and yes.
DUH!!!!
do you actually have one?
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excuse my mistake, i mistyped... the question shouldn't have been "do you actually have one?", the question should have been "have you EARNED one?"
I have bid on one for sale on eBay from the estate of a deceased PLS.
I do have the Ohio seal of a deceased PLS, from an estate sale.
I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you...
> IMHO w/out checking anywhere...probably and yes.
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> DUH!!!!
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> do you actually have one?
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> edit:
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> excuse my mistake, i mistyped... the question shouldn't have been "do you actually have one?", the question should have been "have you EARNED one?"
Frank if you need to make an edit, then you should just erase the original and make the edit privately, no need to leave the original and then announce that you are going to make an edit then re-write the paragraph, you should simply just erase the original and make the edit Frank, just do it.
Why not? It's just a piece of paper but would not give the buyer license to go surveying. I suppose I could sell my [long expired] pharmacy apprentice license but it wouldn't give anyone the right to step behind the pharmacy counter.
That is a bizarre question. Where did that come from?
Can you sell your driver's license?
Could I sell my PADI open water diver license?
does a stamp come with it?
In Ohio, you need to have your registration certificate posted in your place of business in a conspicuous spot where a member of the public can readily see and examine it. So if you sold it you would be out of business.
As for the certificate of a deceased surveyor, well, that would be up to the county probate court.
B L - Is it illegal to sell your License?
please accept my apology for my previous rude and unprofessional post, and thanks for the tip on editting.
Frank
Odd question. I don't know why you would. But, if you had someone else's certificate and this person was either deceased or inactive and had a heck of a history then I suppose it would be ok. But who, other than a surveyor, would buy it?
> Why not? It's just a piece of paper but would not give the buyer license to go surveying.
Second that... And I would bet most states do not address selling licensure certificates because who would actually sell theirs??? Or buy someone else's?
From the Ohio BOR page.
Duplicate Certificate, Wallet Card
Duplicate certificate and wallet card requests must be in writing and include the respective fee. Your registration must be current in order to request and receive a duplicate.
$20.00 Professional Engineer
$20.00 Professional Surveyor
$10.00 Engineer Intern
$10.00 Surveyor Intern
$05.00 Firm Certificate of Authorization
$05.00 Wallet Card
> I have bid on one for sale on eBay from the estate of a deceased PLS.
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> I do have the Ohio seal of a deceased PLS, from an estate sale.
Why?
Illegal? Not sure. Unethical? Maybe so. I mean, why sell your license in the first place? Besides, land surveying is not an easy job. It takes a long time to learn the skills necessary to do the job and even then, you shouldn't stop learning as all kinds of technologies are developed now and then. Even if selling a license is allowed, it does not necessarily make the "buyer" a surveyor.
B L - Is it illegal to sell your License?
> please accept my apology for my previous rude and unprofessional post, and thanks for the tip on editting.
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> Frank
No worries frank, glad to help out, sorry to have the additional task of spelling police letting you know the "editting" is actually spelled editing, all in good friendship Frank.
I have my father's (deceased) shingles (LS & PE) still in their frame, here in my office. They're old school and cool.
I donated his "crimp" (old press-handle style) to my nephew when he passed his CO PE. He had his crimp placed in the press, but retained his grand-dad's crimp-die in a frame.
My aunt has her father's Indiana M.D. shingle from 1908 on her wall, also.
I really don't think anybody would be breaking a law unless they utilized them in a fraudulent manner. They're cool and according to the State that issued them, inactive.
I also have my father's LS hanging on my wall, right next to my Oklahoma LS certificate.
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> Even if selling a license is allowed, it does not necessarily make the "buyer" a surveyor.
Well, plainly, you'd need the guy's stamp too - Then you could survey anything you want, as long as you don't mind being paid in monopoly money.