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This is the problem.
People assert years of experience or on the job as a means to measure their sometimes inflated or wrong idea of their knowledge.
Surveyors have proved their knowledge in the crucible of the career and licensure.
Being a licensed surveyor, you're already held to much higher standard, and because they presume because they have the power of their position, and training and indoctrination from other people's ideas, misguided thoughts and abilities to hold powerful stop gaps, they create new problems that don't need to exist.
Govt work should be in the service of the common good, similar to what the license does define and support, unfortunately lots of govt workers are looking for a pension, and the longer they stay usually the worse the attitude and service become.
I see this every day I go to work. I'm never going to be able to pension in the role or organization I work at so I suppose I'm a serious outlier in my environment of always striving to do the best I can.
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It is common to get a message that reads something like :"Your plat is approved. Send over a mylar that we can sign." With that sort of message in hand I think that the certifications could be signed in good faith.
At least, that is what my attorney is going to argue.?ÿ ?ÿ
@norman-oklahoma The problem is that in order to get said message, you would have to have already signed it.
If you send a digital copy, try sending a digitally signed pdf. The only true hard copy is an unadulterated version. Any changes are recorded in signed pdf's.
But, if the law requires you to be the last to sign it, then I would explain it. References to code have meaning to those sorts of people.?ÿ
Are your surveys used to show what you surveyed and not transfer property. Isn't that the Deed's purpose?
Here's my suggestion: have one stamp & signature place set up with whatever you have to certify to get the approvals you need. Have another stamp & signature place set up with the new state-required certification. If the county officials record the plan without asking you to stamp & sign the final certification, you haven't committed any felony by signing a false statement.
Too many govt bureaucrats at all levels are petty tyrants. An acquaintance said of such folks: "If they had gunpowder for brains they couldn't blow their own hats off."
That is effectively what I do with plats. They want a signed version submitted for review. But there is also a surveyor's certificate. I sign my stamp, but not the certificate until it is approved.?ÿ
@dmyhill That's exactly how things were done until this particular county decided they didn't like that method.
Interesting. Unless you find a client willing to sue them to do the right thing, I think you either have to forgo work in that county or just grin and bear it.
If you think it's time, you could write the Survey license Board asking for a written opinion.?ÿ Or start with the County Attorney, advising that you intend to follow up with Survey license Board....?ÿ I agree with dmyhill that you should include code references.
Peripheral to this discussion but I think all ROS and Subdivision maps should be a unique Mylar or vellum?ÿ with actual with wet signatures which is filed/recorded physically in the County vaults.?ÿ "Electro" submittals are subject to alteration and scanned into illegibility and as the decades pass may become unrecoverable and "what's the original" becomes unclear.
I know I'm a Luddite but well prepared original maps can last for centuries so why not insist that physical maps be recorded/filed as originals?
