Still strange that it also says there is 10.24 remaining under the 14.36 original, that is what caught my eye to begin with since according to this map the 10.24 still included the 50x300 piece, so when I got my 5 acres that should have left less than 5 acres remaining since that strip is about.34 acres, correct or is my math wrong? I don't see how it's possible to get a 5 acre lot and a 5.45 acre lot from 9.9 acres
My neighbors deed above me is for 5.45, I can understand writing one amount down but you think they wrote both in error?
Yes I have decided to hire a professional even though it seems like it is simple math, I ran a land area calculator using a compass and my plot map (kind of crude I know) and I come up with 204,369 for an area
Math has very little to do with it...
Perhaps a little late, but here is the promised calculation showing that the deed does describe 5.00 acres.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/101y4ws08lolu7q/Phil_K_5Acre.xls?dl=0
Hire a local surveyor. By local, I mean at least one that is licensed in your state. That is where you will find an answer that someone can certify, and make it more worth relying on.?ÿ
Thank you sir, I appreciate that
Your spreadsheet demonstrates how an area calculation was done back in the day. Not exactly simple to set up a spread sheet to do it. Imagine pounding that out with a slide rule and pencil, which would have been how it was done in 1979. Not a wonder that it could get fouled up. I did it by drawing it up and querying the closed polyline - and still these things get screwed up all the time.
Further back you are right, but by 1979 most offices would have had an electronic desk calculator or HP portable that provided more precision than a slide rule. Hence the closure and area better than 2 decimal places.
Here's what I get, confirming at least the m&b of what most are saying here.?ÿ Your lot is 5.00 ac without the 50x300 access and your neighbor to the NE is 5.45 ac.?ÿ There is a little misclosure in there but wouldn't change these much.?ÿ I get a total of 14.92 ac and don't see offhand where the 10.24 or 14.36 come from.?ÿ I'd venture without doing any research that if you're paying taxes for 5 acres you probably never owned the 50' strip.
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Based on above calculations I will affirm the attorney opinion that it is close enough to 5 acres.
If this has not been a problem for the last 20 years then why is it so important to you now?
Yes sir I know the 50' was never mine it was just after looking at what was written on the map where it doesn't add up that I questioned if it was missed.
Thank you
Really??
Well I don't know maybe because I was excited as hell to own a piece of property I could build a house on so really have never looked at it since I bought it.
Close enough should not be an answer in any business when someone has paid for something, I certainly would never say that to one of my customers who wanted more info on what they purchased and it wouldn't matter if it was yesterday or 50 years ago
Close enough should not be an answer in any business
Nothing is perfect; so close enough is the answer to everything...
If your deed and taxes both say you bought 5 acres and it looks from these quick calcs that your property is 5.00 acres it may be tough for you to acquire the 50' strip even if your neighbors to the south have both had it missed in their subdivision. It's going to cost you from the get go to search title and find if it's even really missing (which I doubt if there's been some mention somewhere that one of your southern neighbors knew about it and knew they didn't have to provide access to you). But even if it was missed you'd be into a discussion with said southern neighbors that you likely wouldn't win without a lot more $$ - if not to the presumed prior owner, then certainly to a cunning land attorney. Totally up to you if it's worth it for a strip that wouldn't add any buildable space to your 5. I get that the other listed numbers, 14.36 and 10.24 from prior conveyances are suspect, but finding the truth to those or possibly that they were just written in error won't benefit you at all and would certainly cost a bit for the work as well.
and in my CADding up of that, the misclosure was 3/8" along 2 of the lot lines. Where the 'error' actually occurs though is a matter of property research and it too wouldn't affect your (or any) lot size at all.
No I'm not interested in that strip of land , it was due to the fact that the lots and what is on the map didn't add up so I was trying to determine why and that was the simplest answer to me not knowing if my lot was correct.
Definitely feel better about it now, I really didn't want to spend money on title searches and new surveys for nothing.
Other than the town has me as owner and tax payer for that strip for 20 years but I will get with them and correct it.
Thank you
I am posting this on the wall.
If it was just math anyone could do my job.
1979 we were using both HP and TI handheld calculators every day.
When you are just comparing what is written on a map and the numbers don't add up it certainly is just math, I was referring to the difference in acres sold and acres on the survey map it had nothing to do with the surveying itself
