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MightyMoe
MightyMoe
@mightymoe
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Joined: September 22, 2010 9:13 am
Last seen: October 15, 2026 2:19 pm
Topics: 1006 / Replies: 9714
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RE: Plane coordinate problems

@mathteacher Actually my DC gives Grid, Ground, Ellipsoid distances at any time, a simple pull down arrow to switch between them.

4 years ago
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RE: Plane coordinate problems

@olemanriver The PLSS is based on Astronomic bearings. If you can find an area where the difference was measured accurately enough between 1800-195...

4 years ago
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RE: Plane coordinate problems

@mathteacher Mathteacher surveying equipment has automated it. If I survey a state plane job, all my equipment projects it with the GPS, the Robot, ...

4 years ago
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RE: Plane coordinate problems

@mathteacher Yep, this is what everyone working in state plane did and every day. We calculated each and every measured distance, it was part of the...

4 years ago
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RE: Plane coordinate problems

In MSP the Grid distance is 3.6' short, the AZ is almost 2d rotated, so there's some big distortions just using Montana. I'm not sure why you think a ...

4 years ago
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RE: Plane coordinate problems

@mathteacher Cool So how's that SP bearing along the runway? Anywhere near close to true north? Now do the Montana SP distance.

4 years ago
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RE: Plane coordinate problems

@glenn-borkenhagen We can use this equipment to measure very accurately, then we shrink the measurements so they represent a surface thousands of fe...

4 years ago
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RE: Plane coordinate problems

@rover83 I keep thinking it was called CMM, not sure why, I know Glen would remember.

4 years ago
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RE: Pushing the limits of GPS accuracy using GPS Post processing

@jitterboogie Unless the coal seam daylights there is normally water and methane trapped there. Dewatering will have to happen and it can effect large...

4 years ago
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RE: Plane coordinate problems

@lurker A sometimes poster here developed a geodetic program for the HP48 that we used way back when. It allowed you to traverse geodetically using co...

4 years ago
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RE: Plane coordinate problems

@lurker each bearing will be rotated to geodetic north, east west lines will not have the same bearing shown NE or SW. Put into autocad and treated li...

4 years ago
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RE: Pushing the limits of GPS accuracy using GPS Post processing

@pfirmst One thing is certain; in the big mines there will be movement. We saw that often during our mine survey days. Control could move feet withou...

4 years ago
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RE: Plane coordinate problems

@rover83 Yes, but I will say those drawings are super easy to use. When I tie into them I don't use the state plane numbers. I'm more interested in ma...

4 years ago
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RE: Plane coordinate problems

@olemanriver I recently used one of their surveys to do a 280Ac tract with 28 monuments from 5 different surveys. This tract was basically surrounded ...

4 years ago
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RE: Plane coordinate problems

@jitterboogie I would love to use that sort of system. Local horizon system using a simple rotation matrix is even easier to model than a projection...

4 years ago
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RE: Plane coordinate problems

@mightymoe do you place geodetic north on surveys or grid north where you are located. Mostly it's State Coordinate System bearings and "surface" d...

4 years ago
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RE: Plane coordinate problems

It will be a heavy lift to make state plane usable in higher elevation states. I suppose it's worth an attempt but the scale of the problem will mak...

4 years ago
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RE: Plane coordinate problems

Using TBC in a state plane projection I create two ground points using the create point function and bearing/distance. Inversing the points, the resu...

4 years ago
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RE: Party chief Survey, test questions

1. The grid (scale) factor doesn't tell you the difference between ground and grid, so the answer is still unknowable. 2. That's an add/subtract prob...

4 years ago
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RE: How Long Between GPS Control/Boundary Corner Occupations?

@mightymoe When using the double-bubble as a way to check rod plumbness, should they be at 90° or 180° to each other. Does it matter? If you do 1...

4 years ago
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