met a client yesterday who was looking at a 1 acre lot to build a vacation house and keep a couple horses.
I went to the job cold, with no map, but the client was supposed to bring info.
I said,"do you have a map?"
He says,"No, but the the property is a perfect rectangle 167 x 261."
I say,"Do you know if there are property lines marked?"
"Yup, the realtor showed me. That pole over there with the flag on it is the corner. The realtor flagged the pin at bottom of the bank just below the pole"
Yup, the realtor had flagged the utility pole guy wire anchor. No other evidence that I could find on the lot other than a maze of ancient stone walls and the remains of a old burned out camp
> "Yup, the realtor showed me. That pole over there with the flag on it is the corner. The realtor flagged the pin at bottom of the bank just below the pole"
>
Wow...the RA not only showed him the property lines but even flagged the pin. Me thinks that is crossing over the line a bit. If I were the RA I would have told him "I believe this is where the lines are but have a survey to make sure". Of course since none of us were there to hear what the RA really said, his version may have been innocently skewed.
And they flagged the guy wire...lol.
A Couple Of Horses On One Acre ?
After a house, well and septic system, where do you put the barn and horses?
Paul in PA
A Couple Of Horses On One Acre ?
Maybe he is going to go with the old European style of a house/barn.
A Couple Of Horses On One Acre ?
Like Knud Hermansen says they should require a licence to buy flagging.
> Yup, the realtor had flagged the utility pole guy wire anchor. No other evidence that I could find on the lot other than a maze of ancient stone walls and the remains of a old burned out camp
Is this a 'by guess and by golly' survey?
It's what you have to live with for being so anti-recording of surveys.
Paul
> >
>
> It's what you have to live with for being so anti-recording of surveys.
Paul,
Since there were no monuments set, this property was almost certainly never surveyed. All a recording act would do is raise the price of a survey making it less likely that the owner would get the parcel surveyed. Or drive the client to hire unlicensed people to mark the lines.
Perry
> > >
> >
> > It's what you have to live with for being so anti-recording of surveys.
>
> Paul,
>
> Since there were no monuments set, ....
You do not know that for a fact Perry. Even if your particular parcel was not monumented, I am sure others in the area were monumented that you would be able to use.
Having a recording act for a survey does not necessarily establish high costs to do so.
Perry
You don't need no stinkin' surveyor. The line goes over there to that funny lookin' iron that the realtor flagged up. Just set up over here, sight here and stake out a line so I can put up my fence and house. Piece of cake...
Perry
> > > >
> > >
> > > It's what you have to live with for being so anti-recording of surveys.
> >
> > Paul,
> >
> > Since there were no monuments set, ....
>
>
> You do not know that for a fact Perry. Even if your particular parcel was not monumented, I am sure others in the area were monumented that you would be able to use.
>
> Having a recording act for a survey does not necessarily establish high costs to do so.
Paul,
If a retracement survey is done, then by state law, monuments must be set. Now I suppose some jake-leg surveyor might have ignored the law and NOT set monuments, but I'm guessing ole' jake-leg would ignore the recording law also.
As far as a recording law driving up the cost..... Somebody has to pay to set up the recording system. I'm guessing there will be fees, delays, mylar costs and a set of mandated requirements that some bureaucrat will constantly be changing to justify his existence.
I've see it happen in septic designs in NH and also in petroleum storage tank permitting. For example the septic review fee has increased from $90 to $300 over the past 10 years.
Perry
Perry,
What did your boss say when you told him what the client told you?
Jim
Perry
> Perry,
>
> What did your boss say when you told him what the client told you?
>
> Jim
He showed up on the job only a few minutes after the conversation took place, so he just kind of laughed when I showed him the guy anchor with the flag. To the realtor's credit; the guy anchor was an old one that was no longer used and did NOT have the actually guy wire attached.